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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 92 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yep, that's the plan.

It should be obvious by now that governments don't give one fuck about protecting kids. Not one single fuck.

[–] derAbsender@piefed.social 19 points 5 days ago

Well... Fucking and children and people associated with power .... We have learned there is no real "not" in this Chain...

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 61 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The Internet was cool while it lasted

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We'll just continue to make our own internet with blackjack and hookers. Too much knowledge is already out.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Isn't that just the "dark web"

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah, it's also meshtastic, ham, p2p

We've got options and always will.

[–] Emi@ani.social 2 points 5 days ago

I assume unless they just make whitelist of sites you can connect to you can find workarounds.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What're the data rates like on meshtastic and ham? Wasn't looking great when I briefly looked at it.

[–] gnuthing@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 4 days ago

Meshtastic uses LoRa, so slow speeds but far distance. A better choice is reticulum, this combines LoRa, Wifi HaLow, Wifi 2.4 & 5 GHz and BLE together into one network stack. So in a city we could have faster data speeds all sharing WiFi and rural areas that currently need satellite we could have a connection over far distances wirelessly. Reticulum is also encrypted, meshtastic is not

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean they're not crazy good by any means, but they could be improved upon. More so speaking of mesh, ham is its own mystery in my brain.

Just examples really of networking outside of the normal infrastructure.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Okay yeah that was the impression I had too. I was excited when I first heard about it but from what I read it didn't seem like you could do much with it. I'm still interested in playing around with it though if I find some free time. Ham didn't really interest me as it requires a license which kind of defeats the purpose of this imo.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Agreed on that front as well.

There has been some progress with data on meshtastic as well as range. For what it is in its current state, it's still pretty awesome imo

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 5 days ago

It's called the deep web in this case. The dark web takes special tools to access, like Tor

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The Internet is just a bunch of AS running open source protocols on commercially available infrastructure. It's doing fine. The hosted commercial services might be fucked, but you can run your own.

You're using such a service right now.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 5 days ago

no you can't "run your own" for very long if that means you are breaking the law and can be legally punished for not complying with laws like this :(

Governments of the world, get the fuck out of the Internet.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 5 days ago

Until the government beats down the door of whoever's not following their BS laws and shuts them down.

[–] Vieric@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

It's a feature, not a bug. Not sure why so many headlines keep acting like it's some kind of accident.

[–] myrmidex@belgae.social 13 points 5 days ago

To reinforce the plausible deniability of politicians of course. It's all about manufacturing consent.

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Age restrictions and id verification side step the real issue that they don't want to deal with.

Actually regulating the companies making these addictive, harmful sites.

[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

The real problem is children on the Internet. The real solution is getting parents to use parental control software.

If you're a full grown adult using Facebook, much less addicted to it, ya get what ya deserve.

[–] mickus@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Considering the recent comments from Merz that is indeed the point

[–] Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago

Du hast Fotzenfritz falsch geschrieben

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

These guys are actually begging for it.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 days ago

To be fair this kind of thing certainly hasn't gone wrong with Germany before!

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It’s frustrating that they act like we have privacy right now. The whole situation is typical absurd human behavior.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 16 points 5 days ago

For the folks not exposed to the plan.

[–] BranBucket@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Algorithm-based, ad supported social media is a public health crisis and damages people of all ages. It should be destroyed. At that point we don't have to worry about it's effect on kids or them using VPNs to circumvent age restrictions.

Seems like a more effective solution to me.

[–] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago

Yep, and "age verification" is just a euphemism for identity verification.

[–] Greddan@feddit.org 5 points 4 days ago

Good luck! My child is behind 7 proxies!

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Which is the entire point.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

Corporate needs you to find the difference between [UK] and [China]

They are the same picture .jpg

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 10 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The only way to use VPN with how things are going at this rate is through mail in cash or Monero.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 days ago

Yet another mullvad W

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

With a bit of infrastructure, today you can detect and disrupt any VPN session. This is coming soon to your country, too.

[–] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You also can avoid all of these disruptions by camouflaging your packets as some generic protocol, which is already quite easy e.g. in Mullvad by using shadowsocks and ai disruption (randomising, among others, packet size and intervals). In fact, it will always be impossible to detect VPNs without deep packet inspection - and that would require banning ALL internet traffic encryption, which seems unrealistic because of the astronomical downsides, even in today's political situation.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I didn't know about that, that sounds terrifying. At least I was still right in saying that they cannot block VPNs completely - you can still send traffic through HTTPS or DNS requests, but it is just too slow for most applications, however definitely enough to be able to communicate with other people in times of censorship. Based on my research Russia is also experimenting with CIDR whitelisting, which is even worse but does have the huge drawback of basically breaking the internet except for a few large sites.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

without deep packet inspection

DPI is being used actively in a lot of countries including where I live, sadly

[–] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The world is going to shit... also, I am asking out of pure curiosity - how does DPI interact with encryption where you live? Is encryption just plain illegal or what?

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

encryption is legal, DPI is used to block specific websites that are deemed illegal in this country like pornography, gambling, "national security" related (North Korean stuff mainly), piracy, etc. for context where I live is South Korea.

attached a machine translated screenshot of warning.or.kr (where blocked pages get redirected to)

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 days ago

Yes, and it's also a bad idea that has no place in a free society for many other reasons.

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What if you buy your child a VPN that is outside of UK?

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 1 points 5 days ago

And that's why the UK law is so stupid.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

The global pedofile oligarch greater Israel project noose tightens

[–] gnuthing@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 5 days ago

And here I don't let my kids access the internet at all without a VPN