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New Xbox & AI CEO announced via Twitter ( not calling it x) the new “hybrid” console that will play Xbox and PC games.

In other words you know just a PC. Thus far it seems the system will use the exact same Xbox desktop experience as the “rog ally”.

While we all saw it coming and there isn’t much surprise. This to me says Xbox is dead as a platform.

It’s going to be expensive, it’s going to have Windows. It’s going to have co-pilot it’s going to have the same pop ups.

At least we get an Ally ROG desktop at most a Surface Gaming Desktop. Either honestly is a terrible idea. There will be most affordable options not tied to windows there will be mode powerful options at the same price. Even if you like the idea of going all in PC gaming this won’t be your best option.

If you want to stay a console gamer you’re going to have to switch teams …

RIP Xbox.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Xbox Windows X11 (not to be confused with Xorg X11 or DX11)

Live announcement on X (not to be confused with Xbox Series X or Xbox One X)

Anyways rip NT Kernel lol. Now there really isn't any use case left where it would actually be useful.

[–] Xenny@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I think Xbox is shutting its console side to compete directly with the PC market. Head-to-head with valve. Good luck. And by that I mean eat shit Microslop

[–] Solrac@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

You need log into your microsoft account and give us your goverment ID to start using your Windows Computer, powered by Copilot. Would you like to subscribe to Xbox Game Pass with Copilot? Would you like CoPilot to play games for you? Copilot is very helpful, it can take screenshots of your whole screen every few seconds to help remind you of what you were doing 3 months ago. Copilot is very helpful, it can work your browser, manage your files, write your letters, use your computer for you! All you need to do is say, Hey Copilot, because Copilot is always ready to listen to you! You want to install a software? Downloading software from sites can lead to malicious spyware! Use the Windows store instead! You need to log in to your microslop account and give us your goverment ID to browse the Windows Store. Windows is so useful, it can give you weather updates, remind you of that thing you were looking to buy, things you were looking for, straight from your Start menu and task bar! You want to install Steam? I'm sorry that's not available in the Windows Store, consider Subscribing to Xbox Game pass instead! You want to run something outside of our guardrails? Don't worry, if something goes wrong, you can use Recall to see whatever it is you were doing before you did something you regret!

Ok, I can't keep this up. I cannot fathom why the fuck anyone would tolerate Windows... No game, no software, no nothing, is worth keeping literal bloated spyware that wants to drain your wallet, safety, and privacy. -- I will continue to say this;

Just Switch to Linux. If you really need a guidance, just use Linux Mint or Zorin. Explore and try other things, don't be afraid of making the wrong choice, just pick a flavor, learn it, and own your stuff back.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

If I'm going to buy a PC type console, it'll be the steam machine. No idea why anyone would go for something that has windows on it at this point. I guess some will buy it because it has the Xbox name but the value of that is waning.

[–] korazail@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Tiny caveat: If the "windows tax" is less than the cost of building the device by parts -- which it might be -- then buying a new XBox Series X 360 Box X Box 360 One and installing linux on it might be a cost savings for a consumer... assuming no signed OS fuckery.

[–] zarkony@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 hours ago

Good idea, but I 100% expect the bios to be locked down and force secure boot. Hopefully there would at least be a work around to enroll new keys, but don't count on it.

[–] prenatal_confusion@feddit.org 3 points 8 hours ago

Maybe the online features of Xbox like multiplayer and such are going to be a factor in people wanting to stay. Network effect ...

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (6 children)

Consoles were just weird very restricted PCs for decades now, it's nothing new really. If anything, making it more open will be better, there is no other need to keep it restricted other than making it unupgradable so you have to pay for a new one every generation.
In other ways, good, now do the same with PS.

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[–] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 37 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

It just sounds like a Steam Box that also steals your data.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 13 points 11 hours ago

And then feeds it into the actual orphan crushing machine

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[–] this@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 hours ago

How much you wanna bet it'll just be a pc you can't uninstall windows from?

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This is just the needle pushing more towards subscription models for all the things.

In a few years you won't own games or game systems, you will have a controller to the side of your monitor and all your PC functions will be outsourced to a microsoft server and your games will be streamed to you according to whatever subscription tier you're on.

If you all want to stop this, STOP BUYING NEW GAMES. Just put the stupid fucking companies out of business, we can "acquire" plenty of PC games for our PC's and there are vast numbers of used games out there, alongside whatever is kicking around in our steam libraries that we didn't have the attention span to even try. Let's go on a spending diet and enjoy the lives we have for a little while until the oligarchs all starve.

[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume the oligarchs will starve when they can always print money out of thin air while the rest of us pay for it in inflation.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Well, to be more correct, if they see a venture or tactic of theirs isn't paying off as their delusional AI's told them it would, we can at least get them to scrap that direction and try something else. We'll never actually "stop" them, but we can use the thing we have, that they want, to at least direct them away from the places that they are causing harm to things we want to preserve.

I am under no expectation of this happening at all, we have hundreds of millions of families who will throw whatever new, shiny, mainstream tech-toys and "blockbuster" releases at their kids as a babysitter, those are the breadbasket of the tech and entertainment companies.

[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 3 points 8 hours ago

Will they call it Xbox copilot? I can not and will not own any device that runs on software from Microsoft. Never again.

[–] deafboy@lemmy.world 37 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

I'm confused by the pessimistic reactions, though.

Companies converging towards the semi-open platform is a good thing. The locked down hardware and exclusives are not something we as customers asked for. It was something the cartel just shoved down our throats.

What bothers me is the backwards compatibility that microsoft has always just hand-waved in regards to the sunsetting of the xbox HW. A clear yes or no would be nice.

[–] RamRabbit@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I, for a long time, wanted Microsoft to delete the difference between PC and Console. They are the same hardware, they can run the same software. Valve achieved this with the Steam Deck. I just wonder how Microsoft is going to fuck it up.

I’m confused by the pessimistic reactions, though.

Microsoft has done an amazing job of destroying good-will. And it's why I and an increasing share of people stopped using Windows (I still have to suffer with it at work though). For any gaming PC that runs Windows:

  • Why is there a pre-installed Xbox app in Windows? It doesn't help play Steam, or Epic, or GOG, or even Amazon games. I don't think it even helps with Windows Store games...

  • Why are there ads in the start menu?

  • Why are there two control panels? Why do I always have to hunt to find the old one because the new one doesn't do what is needed?

  • Why are there popup ads in the notification area?

  • Why do I need an online account, or a hidden fucking terminal, just to get the OS going?

  • Why is Copilot fucking everywhere?

  • Why does the OS hoover fuckloads of data and send it to Microsoft?

  • Why is there pre-installed bloatware?

  • No, but seriously, why are there ads?

These are all questions that are relevant when you ask about why people are pessimistic about Windows as a gaming system. But with the merge of Windows and Xbox, all of the above questions apply, but you also get to add:

  • How locked down will this merged thing be?

  • Will multiplayer require monthly payments?

  • Will it have backwards compatibility?

  • Will they find another place to shove copilot?

  • How many extra ads will there be?

[–] sleepmode@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago

In emulation and retro gaming forums I frequent the reactions seem mostly positive. Lots of questions surrounding backwards compatibility of course.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Oh God I know this will go over many people's heads but I was listening to a podcast where they where talking about the renewal of CUSMA (or USMCA for you Americans) and a senator said "I'm half inclined to think Donald Trump is ready to make a decision" to which Rob Russo, a journalist, rightly pointed out that was not clarity it is infact the absence of clarity. He then said, and this is why I laugh and the yes/no comment is so true.

"If I told my wife 'Im half inclined to take the garbage out today' she would not say that is a clear answer as to if I was going to do it"

Political and Business language needs to fuck off.

[–] 64bithero@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Microsoft was already releasing games on PC. All this does is removes any dedicated hardware. Officially forcing windows down Xbox gamers throats. One less option in the space not really one more.

Windows is not the future for gaming. Windows shouldn’t be anyone’s future

[–] ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

You realize PC is not just Windows, right? It's Windows, Linux, Mac.

Windows might be the most used PC platform but game developer are well aware attaching their success to Windows is not the right move. And that's exactly the kind of freedom PC gives that consoles do not.

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[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

Watch it not even be able to play native 360 titles due to the architecture. Gears of War 2 and 3 will be locked to consoles forever if that happens.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Reminds me of all the posts that say "but can it run crysis?"

Some games are just really difficult to emulate without original hardware.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The Xbone and Xbox SeX can play 360 games just fine, and they are essentially PCs running modified Windows.

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Right, but you cannot play those two games on PC. So if the new console PC hybrid uses Windows, I don't forsee those games running. I may be missing something though.

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The newer Xboxes already run Windows. MS could distribute their 360 emulator on regular Windows.

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Ahhhh, very good point. I wonder if they just didn't feel it was necessary to do, or there was some technical hurdle in the way. Here's hoping they can get something going and maybe bring it to Win11 too so then the Linux guys can get to work on making it compatible.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

Xbox 360 emulation is getting better, so it would be playable on pc.

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[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Dumb marketing speak aside, the general thrust of just turning Xbox into a brand for Microsoft games Studios to release games on Windows and maybe other platforms one day doesn't seem like all that bad of an idea to me.

I want more easy access to more open and flexible platforms in my everyday life, not less. If the traditional console has to go away for us to get the proliferation of "PC games" as the default in ways the average person can easily use that seems like a win for the gaming market overall.

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[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My SeXbox Series SeX has sat in the corner, unplugged, since a few months after the OG Legion Go came out. At first, it was because I preferred the experience on my LeGo. But that's now turned into me not wanting to receive updates, in case someone finally figures out how to install Linux on the thing and that it requires an older firmware.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

All xbox series s and x consoles are made to die. Microsoft put the hardware key in a 1 gb partition on the SSD that is encrypted and in XFBS format nothing can read. All those consoles will be trash in less than 10 years. So until we get the full schematics and a microsoft ex employee to tell us how to get around the partition, they are all going to break and be unrepairable.

[–] tackleberry@thelemmy.club 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

...XFBS format nothing can read... for now. At the rate Microsoft recycles their staff, we will have some of them out in the wild one day with the full work around to reformat this abomination.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

The console has potential if we can fix the heat issues and the stupid SSD failing issue.

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