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[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 91 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Replace "inflation" with corporate greed to understand the true problem.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They've lobbied they way into creating a system there they have practically no bounds.

I mean, they even found a way around human rights and labor laws with prison slave work and even getting laws signed in some states in favor of child labor in the US. And that's only in the US. In some other countries where manufacturing was moved there are literal slaves and children doing the work.

Then there's the whole enshittification where they change the ingredients or the process to use the least material as possible to cut costs, selling food that barely passes for food and products that fall apart and break faster. Or hell, even have services now provided by some stupid AI. Oh and they also slightly reduce the amount per packaging as well thinking we won't notice.

Then after they turn around and charge big bucks for that crap. It's shameful. But they got the governments in their pocket.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I mean, they even found a way around human rights and labor laws with prison slave work

"Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." (emphasis added)

I don't think they really "found a way" around it insomuch as they explicitly continued to allow it in the text of the 13th Amendment. It's not a bug, it's a feature!

[–] sethw@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

even that doesnt tell the story well enough, blaming "corporate greed" is too impersonal. corporations are made up of flesh and blood real people making conscious choices that help themselves and hurt others. the greed is human and the humans have names, THEY are collectively AND INDIVIDUALLY responsible.

[–] wafflez@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

True. And government inflation does directly put money into banks, leading to more corporate profits

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It turns out when you measure "the economy" with old metrics that only really impact rich people there is a disconnect between "the economy" and how everyone experiences the actual economy.

[–] SuiXi3D@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Replace 'The Economy' with 'Rich People's Yacht Money' and everything starts to make more sense.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Replace 'nation' with 'fiefdom' and everything starts to make a lot more sense.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not inflation when the cost to the companies doesn't go up and they keep reporting record profits...

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Record profits (and expenses) are exactly what you'd expect given inflation.

Say you make widgets as a side gig. You spend $500 a month on supplies and manage to get $750 in revenue, yielding $250 in profit each month. Then, the ghost of Zimbabwe president Robert Mugabe is somehow elected to chair the Federal Reserve, and after a year passes, we see 100% inflation, causing your expenses to blow up to $1000 a month. You raise your prices to match, giving you $1500 a month in revenue. You now have record profit of $500 a month! Of course, each dollar is worth half as much as was a year ago, so despite these literal record profits, you're in the exact same financial situation as before. My general understanding is that supply-side costs have increased quite a lot, which accounts for a lot, but probably not all, of the higher costs for consumer goods. I know people in my family talked about how wood and other home supplies got a lot more expensive, and the owner of a local cafe told me about how he was seeing significantly higher costs for basic things like cups and lids.

This is not to say that things like greed don't apply as well, but record profits during inflation aren't an indicator of this (and it's not as if greed is a particularly new discovery). To put it another way, record employee wages during inflation also don't mean very much if the cost of everything else rises to match those gains.

[–] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Let me put it this way, When there was a shortage on that important computer chip that all cars need now days, cars were more expensive. So dealerships tried to inflate the price even more and push terrible financial choices. One straight up said "we can charge whatever we want" when I pointed out the multi-thousand difference from the same brand new vehicle online.

I think it is more like what you say is technically true, but human nature and greed leads to it happening to a more artificial degree, and at an accelerated rate. And the thing is, prices don't really go back down unless it was something where the price fluctuated anyway such as produce and oil.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 29 points 10 months ago

Why be proud of an economy when it does nothing to help you stop suffering? That's something that touches probably 80-90% of people.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

if 'the economy' is not really a metric the common man should care about in any capacity, why do news agencies push it like its the new god?

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s political propaganda.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Eh, I also think all the people with $300k+ houses are interested in 'the economy.'

It's the rest of us that are hung out to dry.

If you think millionaires are the only issue, you're part of the problem.

[–] lewdian69@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hear you but that number needs to be much higher these days. They've fucked the housing market too.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago

Eh, I bought my house for $60k and it's 1,200 sq ft.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The "economy" means the stock market. It's what is important for capital gains. Guess who owns the news?

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The stock market was doing fine even when the economy was at its worst. 2008, this was not.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

why do news agencies push it like its the new god?

Because it is the new god. Praise The Holy Economy and Its Invisible Hand!

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I pretty much don't spend money unless I absolutely need to.

Fuck this shit.

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

If I don't need it, I don't buy it. If I do need it, I make it. If I can't make it, I'll buy it second hand.

[–] Bonskreeskreeskree@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The job market is ass right now

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

My $300 average supermarket shopping every two weeks is now at $400.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Who would have thought that people would have negative views of the economy after banks fuck it up.

Am I supposed to be grateful for the banking industry destroying the economy? What a god damn joke.

CNBC can lick my nuts.

[–] ULS@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Economy? Who has faith in any aspect of humanity these days...

[–] Candelestine@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

People that don't read too much news. Which is also usually owned by for-profit companies, incidentally, who get money when we consume their content.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

If we all start killing ceos at the same time… 3…2……