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Just a PSA.

See this thread

Sorry to link to Reddit, but not only is the dev sloppily using using Claude to do something like 20k line PRs, but they are completely crashing out, banning people from the Discord (actually I think they wiped everything from Discord now), and accusing people forking their code of theft.

It’s a bummer because the app was pretty good… thankfully Calibre-web and Kavita still exist.

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[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 52 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

accusing people forking their code of theft

AGPL 3.0 license

Too fucking bad, pussy.

[–] yyprum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hey, pussies are great, don't compare them to that idiot.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Fair point.

[–] Flaco_waton@feddit.cl 10 points 2 days ago

Classic. Another one bites the dust..

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 93 points 4 days ago (10 children)
[–] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It seems like the criteria for making it on there is fairly lax. Nextcloud makes a list by simply having an AI assistant as an optional (user-facing) feature, while none of the actual code appears to be AI-generated.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

I’d be easier to make a list of all software that doesn’t use any AI at this point

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 days ago

Even if the "has an optional AI assistant" was not a thing, the repo includes an AGENTS.md file, which is also listed in the criteria, and more than qualifies it as slopware.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Man this list is depressing. Good to have handy though. Sad to see SearXNG and a few others on here.

[–] northernlights@lemmy.today 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Seriously... kitty, rawtherapee, keepassxc, python, the freaking linux kernel!

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Did you read about kernel they are experimenting with using it for reviews. They have some prompts for LLM to catch issues before it gets to maintainers so it frees up time. Don't see an issue if that is all it is.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 3 days ago

It might be, but for some people that might, understandably, be already bad enough, a line in the sand if you will.

I'm reminded of this statement about LLMs and the kind of people who use them in the first place. It's an early indicator that quality (and sovereignty) of the software is going to go the incline down.

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[–] meathappening@lemmy.ml 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Booklore is listed as an alternative to Calibre 😭

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 4 days ago

Damn it!!! 😵

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[–] antrosapien@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

That list is depressing

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago

Holy shit I almost whish I didn't read through that list...So sad to see so many projects go down this path...

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[–] Kirk@startrek.website 48 points 4 days ago

Damn 99% of the time someone says not to use an open source product it's because of some obscure drama unrelated to the actual program.

But in this case the dev appears to not just be using AI code (not great but debatable) but using mostly AI code and using AI to reply to bug reports. Not something the average person wants to be running in a live environment.

I haven't used Booklore but the excitement around it was nudging me there. I think I'll stick with CWAs slower rollout.

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can't check now, but if there aren't forks named like BookTale and BookStory, I'll riot.

Jokes aside, if the license he used allows forking, dude's tripping, and could even get sued depending on the country for false accusation of crime.

And ah, Discord, great for nuking inconvenient chats. Imagine if it had happened over at a public forum so people's reactions could be backed up.

And dunno where I'd draw the line, but 20k lines imo is a bit past reasonable. How would anyone audit that many in a timely manner? But with the "dev" doing that daily, that'd be hard to even pretend.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The treekie in me wants BookData.

(edit) This made me remember The Measure Of A Man and now I'm fucking depressed. They had such high hopes for the future.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The trekkie in me wants BookData.

The extra bit about Lore being the one who could make shit up and say what folks wanted to hear while Data was based on facts and logic isn't lost on me either

[–] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"You want to seek out new life and new civilizations? Well THERE. IT. SITS!"

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[–] queasy@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

Wow, I was thinking about switching from calibre-web soon too... Thanks for the headsup!

[–] shads@lemy.lol 15 points 4 days ago (13 children)

And every time the use of LLMs for open source development comes up we get the same tired spiel from people about how it's just a tool and implications that anyone who doesn't embrace it with jpy in their heart is just a Luddite.

It seems to me that it's less a tool and more like intentionally infecting your project with cancer. Sure it shows all the signs of rapid growth, but metastasization isn't sustainable or desirable. Plus I am yet to encounter a strong advocate for LLMs who isn't a cunt.

[–] Reliant1087@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's a powerful tool that people are using without restraint. I think this to be expected in the first few years after any new powerful tool is found. Humans will find a way to mess it up.

See radium cosmetics and ideas to dig the Panama canal using hydrogen bombs. Social media is probably as much or even more dangerous than LLMs.

[–] shads@lemy.lol 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But they aren't distinct things, they are both heads of the same capitalism hydra. How much of the training data for these LLMs has been harvested directly from Social Media? I sure as shit don't know and I would argue nor do many other people.

Radium is probably a good analogy actually. Thank you. It's toxic in almost every application we can imagine, it's got a legacy that extends out to the current day, it formed a massive economic block, and it turns out it should only ever have been used under the strictest controls. We should never have had "entrepreneurs" being the driving force behind it.

It should have ALWAYS been a controlled substance that required people who understood and respected how fucking dangerous it is. Instead we are intent on jamming LLMs into every aspect of life regardless of how badly we suspect and/or know it will fuck everything up.

[–] Reliant1087@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately I don't think caution is a virtue that is rewarding in most circumstances to most people. New tools need to be extensively and rigorously tested before being used.

I don't even think it's a individualism/capitalism thing unfortunately. I've been in cultures/societies that are not either and both still use these tools to further their goals. It's just power at the end of the day.

It's like the nuclear bomb. It doesn't really matter what the underlying economic system of US or USSR were, they still used it to further their goals.

I think the insidiousness is in the power of the tool. For most people it's just too powerful to not use. I can be an excellent photographer or artist and not make a dime if I don't engage in social media.

For me that's the sad thing. Self-hosted small models have been extremely useful to me to perform selective tasks that completely changed how things work. It's allowed me to manage my research and information processing so much better. But I also know most people don't put any limiters on it and use it for anything and everything.

[–] shads@lemy.lol 1 points 17 hours ago

I have played around with a bunch of tools at a self hosted level. The big thing I found puts inherent brakes on the process is the technical capability to actual use them, when I played around with ESRGAN to upscale images I was limited in application by time and equipment, I achieved better results than I could have on my own, markedly worse results than if I had the technical ability and equipment to just reshoot the images with better resolution.

I tried some photogrammetry, similar outcomes. I could have done better by being better with Blender. NERFs as well.

What we have is people yelling "Monorail! Monorail!" And using free credits or buying them.

The industry is already losing obscene amounts of money and the actual use cost is still entirely obscured from the general public. Once enough of the world is hooked on using LLMs for everything we are going to see the true costs emerge, then it will be another iteration of the haves and the have nots, society as a whole cannot afford to make LLM usage profitable, where does that get us?

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (10 children)

I'll argue that it is a tool, and object to automatic zealous hostility towards anyone using it, but that doesn't mean criticisms of how that tool is being used aren't valid. It seems like that is what people are focusing on here, and they definitely aren't Luddites for doing so.

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[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I literally just got this all set up and was about to hook up my wife's kobo to it, good timing for this to come out so I don't waste any more of our time with this slop. What a shitshow.

I just spun up Komga instead last night (I was going to set up CWA but I've heard sketchy things about their lead dev that don't leave me optimistic). Very easy to get up and running, pretty basic but it seems to work well and does exactly what it needs to do. I was a bit hesitant since it seemed geared toward comics, but it's handling regular ebooks just fine.

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[–] civ@lemmy.civl.cc 15 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I self-host audiobookshelf, and it's working pretty well for me. It doesn't have tons of features, and the android app is a bit janky, but it does what I need and I'm happy with it.

[–] b72@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

Reading this whole thread I’m now glad I have Audiobookshelf already. I already use it every day for audiobooks and podcasts, but hadn’t considered it for ebooks.

Just transferred my ebook collection from Booklore to ABS. I’ll miss the Kobo Sync which seems to work in Booklore, but I certainly won’t miss the AI and vibe coding!

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[–] Scrath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

Good thing I decided against switching to it, even though my main reason is that my weird book organisation scheme isn't feasible with anything but calibre or manual organisation currently as far as I know

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