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[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 29 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Tl;Dr they all failed because they're init daemons and not entire system management daemons. Article gave a nice description of the different choices but I gave up reading after runit because the reason for failure always boiled down to

It's only an init daemon

[–] hunger@programming.dev 11 points 14 hours ago

More than that: "its only an init daemon that does not even make use of Linux features". They all try to work on all posix systems while systemd is Linux-only and uses everything the kernel can offer to make things safer and more reliable.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 8 points 18 hours ago

There's also the addendum to "s6" which is a bit more interesting, since it seems it found a viable niche outside of hobbyist distros. Somehow I had never heard about it before.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Not just that, but a good amount of software wouldn't work or even install because of a direct dependency on systemd.

[–] mrbigmouth502@piefed.zip 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm pissed that systemd has made a change that paves the way for age verification, and is unwilling to go back on it. The change they added may not do much on its own, but I worry about future consequences.

Since it's rare for large organizations and projects to go back on things like this, I'm considering moving my systems over to non-systemd distros. At the very least, I hope a fork without the userdb birthDate variable hits the AUR.

[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 10 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Honestly, it's kind of a big nothing burger. As long as the distro that you use doesn't actively enforce the age verification, it's just a field that is there and that is really inconsequential.

[–] Ilumar@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

That's the way I see it as well. Some distros are going to want to or be forced to comply with the laws, so offering the option seems sensible on systemd's part.
Systemd is not forcing distros that don't want to comply to use the field.

[–] org@lemmy.org -5 points 10 hours ago

Slippery slope of compliance, magat

[–] atomicStan@programming.dev 7 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Surprised to see that Dinit wasn't even mentioned.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

They'd have to have changed the article's title to "5..."