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we dont deserve GrapheneOS (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 8 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) by not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to c/privacy@lemmy.world
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[–] bold_omi@lemmy.today 17 points 4 hours ago

No, we absolutely deserve it because privacy is a fundamental right.

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Motorola will probably want to ship a compliant* device in those regions.

"So be it" may mean you'll just buy the device with stock AOSP, and a warranty condition that allows flashing GrapheneOS. Hell, you'd slip a piece of paper in the box with flashing instructions.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It's also what Linux should be doing in general,. It's not even the US. It's a fucking state in the US that is doing something stupid on behalf of Meta.

Any Linux distro should just put the onus on the CA legislature. Have a TOS that specifies that it does not comply with CA law, and as such isn't legal there. No need for any implementation change. Businesses in CA can take it upon themselves to comply by maintaining a fork that adds any sort of BS. But, more than likely, the dimwits who didn't know better and listened to Meta, might be surprised to find jusy how much everything runs on Linux (except a tiny number of user facing devices).

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 5 minutes ago

Many distros are run by large companies that don't care. RedHat, Canonical, etc.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I totally deserve it.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 46 points 7 hours ago (2 children)
[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 hours ago

lol i corrected it

[–] cenariodantesco@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

hey font off, font you ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 38 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I would argue that everyone deserves privacy and freedom

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Some people don't realize they actually need those, as in some countries the concept of privacy is seen as a suggestion by even millions of people, and those people literally from which techbros like Zuck -- whose insistence people stop being anonymous -- farm their millions.

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 33 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I do wonder if Motorola will back them on this.

[–] TheLastOfHisName@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

I think it would behoove Motorola to make their bootloader unlockable (sorry, is that a hardware thing?), and let the consumer have the option to put whatever OS on it they wish.

[–] Mnmalst@piefed.social 20 points 7 hours ago

I had the same thought. I could imagine a situation where Motorola is afraid about bad PR and them quitting their deal over it. Depending how far this goes.

[–] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago

It wont last long unless they move to somewhere like the south pole, surveillance and authoritarianism is becoming normalized everywhere in the world

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like the normal font to me. ;)

But anyway, they're still only gonna run on Pixel phones (and Motorola soon, apparently).

It's one thing to say "my custom firmware does X, Y, Z," but if you can't install it on any Android phone... I think it's time we stop treating Android like some kind of bastion of freedom or privacy. Android maintainers and custom firmware developers have talked about a unified base for over a decade and it still hasn't happened yet. If you buy a phone in certain regions (like the US, China, and other limited countries) you can't just install whatever you want. The goal has always been to make phones more like computers, where you can "just install Linux" if you don't like Windows. (Well, not the iPhone, that's always been locked down.) But it's never been true of Android.

The goal is open hardware you can install anything on. Even a modified version of iOS, if someone's got the balls to host it. Kind of like a hackintosh, but a phone version. Like if you had a PC that had similar specs to an Intel Mac, you could run Mac OS on it (as long as that version of Mac OS supported the Mac you were similar to) fairly easily. We need that for phones. Maybe someday.

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

I mean this is a beautiful dream but currently just a dream

[–] daychilde@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

That's just typecasting.

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 hours ago

I hope it gets popular enough that the devs being squeezed by the latest Android stupidity will just move to a different install model tailored to GrapheneOS.

[–] Willoughby@piefed.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Google: that,... isn't up to you

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 1 points 6 hours ago

That just means no or a very big pain in the ass yes, depending on what country you're in.