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Does anyone know of an open-source alternative to Google's "Messages" app, which takes care of SMS/text messages on my phone?

I was looking for open-source alternatives on PlayStore and F-Droid but can't really find anything – most apps seem to target some extra purpose than simply handling SMSs.

(Edit: I'd like to stay away from the "Simple Mobile Tools" line because I don't know if it's open source, and I don't like the way they promoted some apps – forcing users to update to pro and similar.)

Cheers!

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[–] poudlardo@jlai.lu 26 points 1 year ago

QKSMS all the way, you can schedule messages, block, archive, create back up, change colors. No ads.

[–] 0_0@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I personnaly use QKSMS. It's available on F-Droid and it's quite nice

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Not Op, but thanks for the recommendation. I've got chomp right now. It's all right, but I don't really love it

[–] youngerpants@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I used to use all the Simple tools, even paid for them, unfortunately the dev changed monetization to a shitty model and I got locked out.

Since then I moved to QKSMS. Its on F-Droid and despite some initial quirks I'm very happy with it.

[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@youngerpants@lemmy.world @0_0@lemmy.world @InterSynth@lemmy.dbzer0.com @poudlardo@jlai.lu – thank you for QKSMS, it sounds good. Strange because it doesn't appear with an "SMS" search on F-Droid – but now I got the link :)

Note: I read some users recently complaining about it missing some SMS; let's see if that's still a problem.

[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The play store version is out of date (version 3.9.2, last updated 2021-02-07).

You should get it from F-Droid or Github (version 3.10.1, last updated 2023-01-16/2023-01-19).

Edit: Apparently it was only a small update and it's still practically abandoned.

[–] paradox2011@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

This update was very small, just handling a start up crash and an error involving how question marks are handled. I would still consider this project unmaintained.

[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cheers, got it from F-Droid (another step in de-googling :)

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[–] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 year ago

I'm also interested in this since Signal stopped supporting sms for being unsecure...

[–] coffeekomrade@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wonder if any of these listed alternatives support RCS, SMS/MMS is an incredibly old and insecure

[–] kungen@feddit.nu 8 points 1 year ago

I honestly don't like RCS, because when I send an SMS, I want it to be using that old protocol that doesn't depend on network functionality. Whereas any real chatting I usually take using more secure apps. SMS for me is "hey, you're not responding on our normal chat programs, is your wifi dead or you roaming?" kind of situation.

[–] ninjan@lemmy.mildgrim.com 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

RCS is proprietary. Very unlikely there will ever be an implementation that is open source or foundation driven.

[–] Xylight@lemmy.xylight.dev 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously? The standard that we've been finally getting users on is proprietary? You've got to be joking

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

Very on-brand tactic by Google tbh

[–] Galapagon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rcs isn't proprietary, google hasn't given anyone the tools to develop with it on Android.

[–] LilPappyWigwam@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

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[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Agree about the security. I don't use SMS regularly, but some people message me with that in emergency situations, for instance if they don't have wifi or data. It's also still used to get temporary authentication codes.

[–] Twink@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I'm using QKSMS from F Droid. Last version is from January of this year.

[–] InterSynth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

QKSMS is the only currently viable open source choice.

[–] eruchitanda@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You won't find anything RCS. Google didn't release any API, on'y their app.

Silence, and QKSMS are both great.

[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Had not heard of Silence, Cheers!

[–] InterSynth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I'd say Silence is abandoned, it hasn't been updated in 4 years.

[–] FlapKap@feddit.dk 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's really annoying they haven't made an RCS API public. Do you know if they've made any statement as to why?

[–] ech0@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] 10EXP@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago
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[–] trimmerfrost@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

You won't be able to use RCS without Google messages

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Simple mobile tools pro version are completely open-source and avaliable for free on fdroid. But of course I also paid on google play to support the developer, then use everything on f-droid.

[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm all for supporting developers. Usually I test an app for a month, and if it works well, I make a regular donation (else I uninstall it).

However, while trying out the free version of "Simple Gallery" from Simple Mobile Tools, they sent an update that suddenly made it only last for 14 days, then you had to upgrade to premium. I simply don't like this kind of behaviour, that's why I don't use their products.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really? I've been using Simple Gallery which I downloaded from F-Droid, and I've never seen such a thing.

The creator is Tibor Kaputa?

[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't know who's the creator. Here's the app – you can also see the complaints from some users:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobiletools.gallery

[–] Aopen@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have installed this app and never had any paywall in simple apps suite
https://f-droid.org/packages/com.simplemobiletools.thankyou/

[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah there's a mystery about completely different availability policies by the developer in GPlay and in FDroid...

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[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had to follow links all the way to github to discover this, but yes, it's the same person. Oddly, F-Droid doesn't seem linked to from anywhere, and the description on the web site seems to indicate the free versions of their apps have been abandoned, yet the version I have is fully functional and still receives regular updates.

This is the one I use: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.simplemobiletools.gallery.pro/

It's fully functional. If it's missing any features, then I sure don't notice.

[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I can see why the users with the Google Play version are unhappy. What the developer is asking for payment is very reasonable (especially since it's a one-time payment), but it looks like he wasn't upfront about this and opted for the good old-fashioned bait-and-switch.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That is really disappointing. Although it is perfectly fine for developer to ask for money, especially for FOSS app. It seems like their communication is not exactly on point.

I guess the best course of action is to try on fdroid, if you like it buy on Gplay (or just donate if it not terribly inconvenient), and continue to use the fdroid version.

[–] starman@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like QKSMS is not maintained for ~2 years

[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

About that, see comment by @Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de in this thread. Apparently only the GPlay version is unmaintained.

[–] paradox2011@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I used to use QKSMS, the only update that has been pushed in the last two years was a very small change in January '23 that corrected an error handling of question marks and fixing a start up crash. It is functionally unmaintained at this point.

The developer has ghosted the project in past years as well, dropped out for over a year but eventually did come back. It's never been this long of an absence though.

[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for the heads-up. I've installed it and for now it's working OK. To be honest I don't mind that's unmaintained, if it works (I still use a 10-year old timer app that is just perfect for me, never found the like again).

[–] paradox2011@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know what you mean. I've been using a reminder app called "recurrence" that is abandoned and it looks like its from the android 7 days. When you find something that fits the need just right it takes more than lack of updates to prompt a move to something else. Aside from if there are security issues that aren't getting patched.

[–] pglpm@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they're like works of art - no need to keep adding strokes!

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