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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 336 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Remember back when Elon kept calling himself a Free Speech Absolutist? That just gets funnier every day.

[–] TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 145 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Right-wingers only seem to care about free speech when it applies to themselves. Anyone else and they'll get talking of "defeating the woke mind virus" or whatever ridiculous way they decide to demonize others.

Reminds me of that Sartre quote

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

My speech or the highway!

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 82 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (13 children)

The_donald was the only lesson I needed to learn what conservatives thought of free speech.

It would be interesting to know what conservatives actually believe. By this point we've broken down each and everyone of their professed beliefs and found nothing of substance.

Here is a list of things I remember conservatives use to say their ideology was based on:

*Christian morals - You can even look back at their warped version of Christian morality from 1970s forward and still say today that Trump has fully exposed them to be baseless

*Small government - Trump and Co are actively trying to expand government authority and have successfully taken away the rights of woman all over the US

*Democracy - Trump told democracy to go fuck itself Jan. 6 2021

*Capitalism - Capitilism for the serfs socialism for the capitilists

*American Exceptionalism - At some point America was great but I'm not going to say when.

*No Child Left Behind - jk jk we knew that was bullshit from the get go

*Free speech - ahem I mean free 'hate' speech. all other speech is negotiable.

The list goes on my dudes. Would love to know what these people really believe. My guess is nothing. They are just mad and acting out. We've all seen it growing up. The people who just refuse to help themselves no matter what you do and you're constantly picking up the pieces for them.

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

"Conservatives don't care about free speech. Conservatives cares about power. Faithfulness, old-time values, homemade bread, that’s the just means to the end. It’s a distraction. I thought you would have figured that out by now."

  • slightly altered quote from Handmaid's Tale
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[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 45 points 10 months ago

Free speech absolutist means "I am absolutely free from the consequences of my speech"

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[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 276 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No explanation other than Elon is a thin-skinned little bitch baby who’s carrying water for fascists.

[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 204 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He’s not carrying water for the facists, he IS a fascist and they’re trying to spill that water on everyone in an attempt to undermine people’s freedoms. Fuck him and fuck his kind

[–] Thirdborne@lemmy.world 103 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I don't get why people still use that platform. It's so hostile to the users. This is an election year and we're just going to give him all this influence? Society is a big dumb animal.

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 94 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Anyone who follows the alt-right, did Joe or anyone else go ape shit over this yet? I'm assuming that because they were going crazy over the previous Twitter about certain infractions under the old guard ... so this new shit must be driving them crazy. Being free speech activists and all that.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 82 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 81 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I don't understand why people don't collectively quit Twitter and flock to Mastodon. It's very simple, it's better for everyone

[–] WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social 43 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Because for the previous 15ish years before Musky got a hold of it it was actually decently regarded. Many people turned to it for up to date news and trusted it. It was a place where brands could interact with customers, celebrities with fans, etc. It had built up trust. People are having a hard time letting that go.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Even today there are top posts on Lemmy that are screen caps of Twitter. Not even Lemmy users can stop reading Twitter and upvoting. I down vote them on principle but it's 100 to 1.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 32 points 10 months ago

Reddit and by extension Lemmy were designed to enable content aggregation. I dislike people having so few principles in general but the system is working as intended by users posting things they find interesting happening elsewhere.

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[–] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 79 points 10 months ago (2 children)

This was always going to happen.

Muskrat bought twitter specifically to make it Parler, GAB, and Truth Social all rolled into one.

Banning, shadow-banning, or purging any and all dissenting views or content that differs from the Far Right narrative on the sites is the norm.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The Saudis helped him buy it to try to stop future Color Revolutions

[–] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That too.

All the Far Right Authoritarians are just giddy about it all.

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can see several motives for him buying twitter.

Get trump elected, Because:

a) less taxes for the musky chodelet

b) less pesky safety and labour regulation for tesla/spacex/neuralink

c) drop support for Ukraine so he gets a shot at the rare minerals underneath it when russia has full control.

He's a useful idiot for trump and putin. Still not sure what the saudi angle is, though.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 68 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Who the fuck is still on Xitter? Jesus people, get the hell out of there!

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[–] aluminium@lemmy.world 63 points 10 months ago

Elon "Free speech absolutist" Musk.

[–] fritobugger2017@lemmy.world 61 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So only fascists allowed now.

[–] aisteru@lemmy.aisteru.ch 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 55 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Censorship for thee, not for me.

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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago (5 children)

The Nazi bar is open for business

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[–] UID_Zero@infosec.pub 48 points 10 months ago (3 children)

No official, public explanation. We know why...

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[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 46 points 10 months ago (13 children)

X it's the new "Truth Social"

Elon bought it to make it the christofascist heaven on earth.

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[–] MrSqueezles@lemm.ee 41 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't like that, "leftist", has become a word used outside conservative circles. It sounds shitty and is as meaningless as, "rightist".

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[–] IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago (7 children)

What were journalists and leftists doing hanging out in a Nazi bar anyway?

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[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 33 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are we allowed to say he's gone mask off yet?

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[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 30 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Remember when Musk painted himself as a free speech absolutist who would bring freedom to Twitter, and all of his fanboys believed him, and when he never delivered none of them did ever fucking care?

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[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

Needless to say, just like if r/conservative/conspiracy bans you you're probably doing something Right, X is just the new, louder, conservative/conspiracy echo chamber, although i still don't get why everyone senseable hasn't abandoned the platform yet.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (8 children)

What a coincidence. People critical of israel got banned

The account @Zei_Squirrel, which had 200,000 followers, explained in a Substack post that it was suspended over criticisms of Israel and Bill Ackman but was also not provided with an explanation from X. “If they don’t unban me, it will prove beyond all doubt that Twitter and Elon Musk are just explicitly doing the bidding of the genocidal Israeli regime and its deranged supporters like Bill Ackman.” The post continues, “There is no possibility that anything I have posted rises to the level of being ban-worthy, but nothing that Zionists posts constantly, explicit calls for genocide and mass killing of Palestinians, isn’t.”

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 28 points 10 months ago

Night of the Long Bans.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (7 children)

If people would just use Mastodon instead of Xwitter this sort of thing would not happen.

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] nulluser@programming.dev 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Don't care. The only people that can get kicked off of shitter are people still on shitter propping up it's waning credibility. There are no respectable people left on shitter because you can no longer simultaneously be there and be respectable.

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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I really do wish there was a viable popular alternative to Twitter. Phony Starks has been awful.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He's not Stark, he's Justin Hammer. Always has been.

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[–] NRay7882@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

While it's not 1 to 1, mastodon seems to always be getting mentioned with businesses abandoning Twitter and moving there. I use it but it's just not the same experience

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Dead platform!

[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

Where is the "vote" to reinstate their accounts that closes like 58 minutes after going up?

[–] JIMMERZ@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)
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[–] jpablo68@infosec.pub 21 points 10 months ago

time to follow them on mastodon I guess.

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

It's a conspiracy and fascism echochamber. No prominent journalists should be there either way

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 19 points 10 months ago

There's an explanation, we're just not allowed to say it because for some reason in "ThE lAnD oF tHe FrEe" we're not allowed to say the thing because the faschie right's feelings might get hurt.

[–] Loce@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

I mean... it was no secret that xitter was a rightwing shithole, for quite a while now...

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