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[–] michaelalf@lemmy.world 135 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

I rarely get ads, thanks to pihole. But whenever my server is down for maintenance etc. I get spammed with "Visit the USA!" and "America the Beautiful" ads. I live in Australia... Why the fuck would I want to visit that shithole country?

It seems like the US is drowning and is trying desperately to get more people in to replace the "illegals" they're deporting. Maybe I'm just their target audience (straight, white, male) ughh.... makes me feel gross.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 64 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hi, American here. Please never come here. While YOU would be mostly safe, we are still a dumpster fire.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Eh, if we manage to get our shit together I encourage everyone to visit our national parks. It's not safe now or for the foreseeable future, but if it is in the future, they really are something to behold.

[–] carmo55@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Before trump 2 electric boogaloo this was one of my biggest dreams..

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[–] redsand@infosec.pub 11 points 2 weeks ago

Just a different kind of gambling ad. Gamble your life for a discounted trip to Disney World. Will you make it big or get sent to El Salvador?

[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What you're seeing, unironically, is a century long conspiracy from billionaires to put the entire North American continent and northern South America under a single fascist state called "The Technate of America".

I shit you not.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy_movement?wprov=sfla1

Even Elon Musk's grandpa was in on this. And now their dependents are trying (through the MAGA movement) make it happen.

Why is Trump obsessed with annexing Greenland? Why did he invade Venezuela and kidnap Maduro? Why is he starving Cuba and threatening war? Why is he demanding Canada be annexed by America?

This is why. Billionaires are cashing in on their century long investment of colonizing a world power and establishing themselves as the leaders of the world. It sounds moronic and like a conspiracy theory, but its real, and these people are dumb enough to try it.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 96 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Genuinely boggled that anyone would think this is not the same geopolitical players behind Brexit and trump. It’s exactly the same. If there was a big red bus with ‘Alberta will be more free in the US’ it couldn’t be more the same.

  1. it’s not going to happen; it’s never going to happen
  2. it’s not about seceding or annexation - it’s about politically dividing Albertans specifically, and Canada more generally.
  3. Again, this is the same psyop playbook, top to bottom - there is nothing behind it except oligarch money and bot farms.
[–] TheGreatRapsBeat@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I hope you are right, and generally speaking I believe the same way you do on the matter. Sure they had lineups 2000 people long in every community, but that’s it. Everyone that was going to sign their stupid petitions signed them the first 3 days.

But if you are like me and live here, the sentiment is very much “fuck Ottawa” more than “fuck Canada.” It’s sad how easily affected a population can be when it comes to propaganda like this. It’s sad really. And we thought thought as a society, making sure everyone can read and write a lawful requirement was a good thing.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

And we thought thought as a society, making sure everyone can read and write a lawful requirement was a good thing.

It’s not wrong there’s just an evil financial incentive to keep literacy at a certain level.

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[–] yottle@kopitalk.net 62 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

The Trump administration has also been holding meetings with the leaders behind the Alberta separatist movement ( source). At this point I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the US is performing a targeted destabilization campaign against Canada.

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago

They absolutely fucking are doing that. There may be other parties involved, take your pick. Everything surrounding this is basically a Brexit-style psyop.

Alberta has fossil fuels and minerals. America wants them. Simple as that.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

They're trying to do it all over the world. It's just easier to do next door bcz it's close by.

[–] NoForwadSlashS@piefed.social 60 points 2 weeks ago

And herein lies is the real reason AI is being so heavily funded.

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 41 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Trump and crew need a reason to stay in office after 2028... They believe being in a war allows that due to "war powers".

[–] PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago

Well, it’s been working for his boss in Israel.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Since we’re in the cursed timeline, Trump will leave office in 2029 and be elected prime minister of Canada.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

And also allows them to manipulate the stock market for personal gains. Just disgusting.

[–] Tim_Bisley@piefed.social 40 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

There has been a concerted effort to isolate Canada and the US from each other in recent years. Also within Canada itself the rise of US style individualism has been depressing to see. Its wild how much social media has been weaponized by most nation states to use against others.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hey, just tossing this out there, but rather than have you guys join America, can we join Canada? Just the nice folks, I promise, we don't want the MAGAs either.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

let's round all the MAGA up and ship them to MAGA camps where they can MAGA each other until--

wait a sec....

[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Once again, Putin and his gnomes spreading discord, anything to break the West.

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[–] Auth@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

This is classic information warfare. Its been pretty well documented over the past 10 years. It feels like we all know it exists but still fall for it all the same.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Do you want Cascadia?

Because this is how you get Cascadia.

Literally 0 chance that BC would join a MAGA controlled USA.

... Non-zero chance that it would join WA OR and CA, should an actual dual civil war kick off.

[–] HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Non-zero? How about 100%? Every single person I've ever spoken with about this idea in my life has been on board. I bet 85-90% of the public would support it if the facts could be communicated to them without interference (so, never)

Cascadia would be insanely powerful and competitive on the world stage, probably a superpower.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

The immediate problem would be that Idaho, eastern OR and eastern WA are very very seriously trying to do the whole Greater Idaho thing, and are basically chalk full of armed white supremacist theocrat bigots.

So... yeah.

I guess the 'good' news is that western WA has JBLM and a lot of Navy bases, and maybe enough of them would align with Cascadia ... ?

The bad news is the Holy State of Greater Idaho would probably be able to dash and seize Hanford, and then be able to make dirty nuclear bombs.

But anyway...

Throw in Hawaii and then Cascadia and Japan and SK can form a trading bloc, and theoretically be able to back that up with maybe a little bit of the formerly US Navy?

Total spitballing here.

Alaska sure would be completely fucked.

Airline fuel is pretty expensive these days... for some reason... Didn't BC/Yukon already basically say 'fuck you' to US truckers going between Alaksa and the 48, or I am not remembering that right?

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[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

California can’t survive intact without the Colorado river, so you need to convince at least NV, AZ, UT, and probably CO to come too. If California left but Nevada was still part of Trumplandia one of the first things they would do is shut off all outflow from the Hoover Dam.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Yeah, thats a great example of where you run into the differences between 'Cascadia' as a bioregion, defined primarily by watershed networks, snd 'Cascadia' as a maybe possible legal/political entity, based on current existing borders.

IIRC, the bioregion Cascadia basically only extends down to bits of Northern California... but the political reality doesn't match well with this at all.

Perhaps state delegates could all send couriers to Goodsprings for a conference, to hash out the details, lol.

Cascadia vs Greater California vs ... New Zion/Deseret?

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[–] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, water distribution would be weaponized.

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[–] user_name@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

I love how in only one of the thumbnails Alaska is part of the US.

[–] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So you realise that if the US does go to war with Canada, that would mean that NATO would go to war with the United States, Which means that they'll probably lose all their bases in Europe.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 17 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's more likely mealy mouthed Europeans would declare the end of NATO, let Canada fend more or less for itself, and donate thoughts and prayers in abundance. Too bad Canada isn't part of the EU! With its defense article it will rise from B team to prime time.

Yes, the US would lose a lot if its bases in Europe, though probably (and sadly) not all. But this sort of obvious strategic rake to step on hasn't halted the epic blunder in Iran. Why should it stop stable genius here?

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Nah, it's quite likely in the current climate that the EU would join in the defence of Canada.

If the USA actually starts an intra-NATO war and doesn't just talk nonsense, everyone in the EU knows we are next. So better do a nice clean proxy war on another continent than to let it spill over to the EU once Canada is down.

[–] Brummbaer@pawb.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you seen Merz? Germany would instantly fall to the US side if that happens.

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[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 5 points 2 weeks ago

Let's hope we don't have to find out;)

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember that Canada is a part of the Commonwealth of Nations

Don't know how much that would weigh, but still

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[–] BigTuffAl@lemmy.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Canada should absolutely annex and de-nazify the USA, I'm glad someone is pushing that agenda

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

American here! Yes please! Start with Cleveland! I live in Cleveland, and I live right on the lake. I'm like a jetski ride away from Canada! We're practically family!

Plus....and this is the important part.....GET ME OUT OF THIS HELLHOLE OF A COUNTRY!!!

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Canadian or Provincial annexation is a terrible deal for 2 main reasons.

US debt, and power projection, is on a near term collapse trajectory. Insane healthcare, military spending levels for no social services is higher effective tax/oppression rate on people/small business. Changes in provincial (and/or federal) government structure would be extremely disruptive.

Territorial possession of the US is far more likely than statehood. Far less generous autonomy (Quebec especially) granted by Federal government, and autonomy eroded continuously like native treaties have been. Increased north/south trade seems nice, but "real states" will get federal manufacturing incentives, and possessions will be hollowed out to 3rd world level. Jones act regulations on sea shipping means high cost of living.

While tariffs decrease unity as they should, the whole "protect steel and auto workers for outrageously expensive cars in states that don't have those industries" is reason for highest GDP states to secede from genuinely corrupt political process, that propagandizes swing states on national socialist domination of uneconomic operations delivering no results for them, and shit product for the oppressed states.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, this is basically where I'm at. We don't want to make Canada an actual state. What we want to do, is make it a colony, in the 17th century idea: we rule everything, and whatever you do, it just gets shipped southwards to prop up what's left of the imperial core.

[–] TheGreatRapsBeat@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

You definitely do not need to tell anyone on here twice my friend. Your comment could be used in a sub or two over at Reddit though. Then again, they’d probably just drown you out with “fucking libtard” comments.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

you mean russian linked accounts, many propaganda videos are provided by troll farms themselves.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Russian, Indian, Egyptian...anywhere where there are poor people to exploit. Derek from Veritasium made a video studying and tracking troll farms years ago. A lot of those troll farms are from the usual suspected countries, where dire poverty push them to desperation, and are exploited by powers-that-be.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Who coordinates it? I mean, isn't this the political influencing the right wing fears so much?

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago

But the Left doesn't want it to happen, so you can see how their hands are tied.

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Canadians are generally far too educated for this to become more than a nuisance. It’s still concerning, but it’s great to see how it brings out the morons :)

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

This world is going mad.

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