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12 Places Tried Letting Cyclists Roll Through Stop Signs. Here's What Happened. (urbanists.video)

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[–] hallettj@leminal.space 20 points 3 weeks ago

Here's the data presented in the video:

In Delaware in the 30 months following enacting their Idaho Stop law collisions involving cyclists at stop signs fell by 23%, and overall collisions involving cyclists fell by 8%.

There was also discussion of motivation for rolling stop laws in US states. Idaho, which made this change years before any other state, did so to reduce the number of trivial cases using up traffic court resources. Other states were motivated to remove a pretext that police use to stop and detain people, especially people of color.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Colorado has the safety stop. If no one else has right of way, we can pass through stop signs at up to 10-15mph. In practice, visual blocks mean we have to slow down quite a bit, but where there is visibility, there are some 4-ways I can very easily blow through. We can also pass through a red light once we come to a complete stop provided nobody else has the right of way. In practice, very little changed except now I put 100% of my effort into scanning for traffic, rather than 50% watching traffic and 50% scanning for the police. Going through downtown is also faster now that I don't have to dwell at the lights. Overall, this just legitimizes something that happens anyway. Cars roll through stops every day, it would be silly to ticket a cyclist for it.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

Jesus Christ, build a circle.

Four-way stops are already awful without inventing more rules to juggle.

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Never heard of this before despite traveling in Colorado innumerable times, but it makes me like Colorado even more.

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

There's a great bike trail between Glenwood and Aspen if you ever make it out that way. Highly recommended.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Uh...I mean...a stop for a car is like a yield and pass slowly for a bike...no? :D

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 19 points 4 weeks ago

This is about the outcome of states that changed the laws to make it to where a cyclist can't be punished or harassed by law enforcement for not coming to a stop at a stop sign if they can safely roll through, while cars still have to stop.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So many towns redefining stops as yields. I hope they invent a yellow light or a yellow sign to replace the red ones, and they can once again match the standard for stop and yield sign colours.

[–] lyralycan@sh.itjust.works -2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You don't need to pass a test or read the road law books to buy a bicycle. It's not a motor vehicle. Therefore it is not bound by motor law.

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 1 points 3 weeks ago

Why do you think this is true? Where do you think this is true?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Given that a good part of cyclists ignore signs and traffic lights anyway, what's the point?

[–] No_Maines_Land@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Cyclists are just trying to match their motoring brethren who consistently ingone signs, traffic lights, and speed signs anyway

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, yes? How many cars have you seen recklessly racing through pedestrian zones? Where do you see more than half the cars ignoring red lights?

[–] No_Maines_Land@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I live in North America, so I see cars ignoring speed limits on literally every road.

I see cars ignoring red lights when they turn right on red without ensuring there are no pedestrians in the crossing. I also see cars beginning crossing the intersection while the light is already red (in my own town this is such a problem, its common practice to wait a couple seconds after the light turns green to go).

I see cars consistently treating stop signs as yield.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That is seriously bad. And your cops are probably busy doing American Cops things instead of making sure the city is safe and sound.

[–] No_Maines_Land@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

Canadian cop things. Not quite as bad as the Yanks, but still not great.

[+] bizarroland@lemmy.world -7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Like, I don't care what the signs say, every single time I've seen a cyclist cross a street when the red lights were against them, I have also seen a car come to a screeching halt to not run them over while they are impeding traffic.

You are morally and ethically superior for bicycling instead of driving a car, but you are also unnecessarily risking your life if you do not follow the traffic laws that the cars follow.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

A red light is a different scenario entirely. In that situation, one direction of traffic is able to assume that nothing will impede them, and crossing into that traffic is indeed dangerous.

But that is not what this video and law change it covers is about. This is about laws changing specifically to allow bicycles to perform rolling stops if an intersection with a stop sign is clear or if they reach it first, as this avoids them having to regain their momentum.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

letting cyclists treat stop signs as yield signs

It's in the video description.

I have never seen a place that picks between stop and yield signs by any sane rule. I imagine the US isn't an exception. What they seem to do that is uncommon is enforcing the difference.