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[–] Flower@sh.itjust.works 99 points 3 days ago (7 children)

It just means they have to write "mistakes" or "performance issues" on the paperwork instead of "replaced by robots"

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

PIP, personal improvement plan: you must be faster than the AI for one week. You fail, you're fired.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (23 children)

wow, rare win for Chinese workers.

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[–] mabeledo@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (5 children)

This assumes that people can generally be replaced by AI, which is not true.

AI is an excuse to fire people, and a powerful marketing tool to make a company look better to investors, but it has not had the massive impact techbros want us to believe it has.

Shame, because like everything, it could genuinely be helpful, and instead, we’ve mostly got a bunch of applications no one asked for, and a constant bombardment of dreadful predictions that make regular people go mad.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

In practice, I've heard of companies using AI to "replace" large groups of people, then higher back a few of them with expanded responsibilities and worse pay.

So, they are using it to replace workers, just not in the neat sci-fi sense.

[–] mabeledo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

They don’t need AI for that. I was handed the exact same deal in 2008.

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[–] someone@lemmy.today 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (48 children)

There are so many speech restrictions and humans rights violations in China that scare the hell out of me, but then I see rulings like this and their progress on robotics and tech and I think "Well, they are doing something right..." I hope one day there is more free speech for people in China who deserve to be able to say what they want.

It's a great ruling because companies that would normally favor efficiency and profit increases are in a better position to take these existing workers and utilize them in different ways than just have everyone fired en masse and then somehow the market will sort it out. Even under classical economic theories, governments are supposed to regulate externalities and AI displacing workers too rapidly could be considered a type of externality.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (23 children)

There are so many speech restrictions and humans rights violations in China that scare the hell out of me

I hear an earful about how horrible and repressive the Chinese state government is to its citizens from the outside, largely by national media talking heads and Big Data surveillance company flaks. Meanwhile, the consequences of talking shit on the Chinese internet - account suspension/deactivation, getting in trouble with your employer/school possibly with the threat of firing/expulsion, periodic investigation by state police for threats of violence, possible restrictions on business/travel because you've been added to a "watch list", potential for arrest on some bullshit charge - seem to be all the same kinds of consequences periodically doled out to western citizens.

I'm told Americans have "free speech". But then the Supreme Court lays so many caveats down that even a silly toothless joke is strictly prohibited under US laws. I'm told Chinese officials are brutal and draconian and mean-spirited, but they don't have anything approaching our prison population. I haven't seen evidence of any kind of mob-rule social media gang dedicated to doxing Chinese dissidents, either. So they manage to stay ahead of Canary Mission and Project Veritas in that regard.

I hope one day there is more free speech for people in China who deserve to be able to say what they want.

I want to know what that's supposed to look like in practice. Where can I find the Free Speech that the Evil Foreign Country is supposed to one day get?

Because if the dream is an American style system of free expression... What are we pinning for, really? Chinese Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson? Uyghurs given the Palestine Action treatment? An independent Taiwan that enjoys all the diplomatic kindness we afford to our neighbors down in Haiti and Cuba?

What are we even asking for?

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I haven't seen evidence of any kind of mob-rule social media gang dedicated to doxing Chinese dissidents

there is. it's just not translated as doxxing for some reason i can never understand:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_flesh_search_engine

Chinese Alex Jones and Tucker Carlson?

these already exist... it can only get better if china has better free speech because currently these exist only on the pro-china side. nationalism anywhere is suffocating but it feels worse in china when it's a one-sided battle

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

there is. it’s just not translated as doxxing for some reason i can never understand:

An early human flesh search dated back to March 2006, when netizens on Tianya Club collaborated to identify an Internet celebrity named "Poison" (simplified Chinese: 毒药; traditional Chinese: 毒藥; pinyin: dúyào). The man was found out to be a high-level government official.

That doesn't sound like a campaign of independent agents backed by the CCP to harass dissidents of the government. Just the opposite.

In December 2008, the People's Court in Beijing called it an alarming phenomenon because of its implications in "cyberviolence" and violations of privacy law. Human flesh searches are banned under the law.

This is a radical departure from the American mainstream social media organizing that has often been encouraged, facilitated, and collaborated with by state and national government agencies.

these already exist…

Again, I'm sure there are folks on the internet with bad takes. I've yet to see an Alex Jones equivalent on the scale of "Mainstream, high profile internet show dedicated to denying the existence of school shooters as a pretext for imposing gun regulations". When that kind of personality pops up on the Chinese internet, authorities tend to move quickly to censure and de-list their content.

And a Chinese Tucker Carlson? What would that even look like? A Reagan-Era Maoist with family ties to the PLA who maintains an enormous following of Millennial / GenA viewers built on the back of qigong enthusiasts criticizing Xi Jinping from the Left? Seriously, name some names. I'd love to learn more about this individual.

I've dipped my toe in the waters of Chinese media and you just don't find these kinds of firebrand figures anywhere in the mainstream. If anything, my experience has been with very baby-brained paternalistic bullshit. Hour long shows that have people cosplaying as historical figures and a crowd of academics and talking heads all just nod along agreeing with one another. Entertainment idols and rising political stars jerking each other off to some banal socio-economic milestone or hagiographical rendition of past glories.

If American media is All Red Meat All The Time, Chinese media is unseasoned tofu. It's a totally different atmosphere.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

in the past ten years, human flesh searching most often targets those perceived to make anti-nationalist comments.

i'll agree that it's questionable if it has state backing but i completely missed your claim that doxxing campaigns are the result of the government. unfortunately my honest reaction to that is "huh‽"

March 2006

March 2006 was a much more liberalized time.

you just don't find these kinds of firebrand figures anywhere in the mainstream

well yeah, because there are no mainstream politics in china that are not local. instead, they do non–party-threatening punditry. i'm talking people like zhang xuefeng and yuan tengfei (note that despite impressions some outdated reports might give, zhang xuefeng was only temporarily suspended, which well carlson has been too.), or hardcore hardcore domestic tankies like guyanmuchan.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

in the past ten years, human flesh searching most often targets those perceived to make anti-nationalist comments.

Is there any actual evidence of this?

instead, they do non–party-threatening punditry. i’m talking people like zhang xuefeng and yuan tengfei or tankies like guyanmuchan

Chinese social media platforms have tried to rein in online nationalists by periodically suspending their accounts.

Well-known nationalist influencers Sima Nan and Guyanmuchan have been censored without warning. So was the blogger who tried to sue Mo Yan, whose lawsuit was also rejected by the courts.

One vlogger, who shot to notoriety this year after he posted a video accusing a shopping mall of putting up decorations that resembled the Japanese flag, was similarly shut down. A scathing state media commentary denounced his video as “a malicious report that rides on the online traffic of patriotism”.

:-/

Again, that doesn't seem to be the case. These influencers are consistently at odds with state media and censors.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

https://www.baidu.com/s?wd=%E4%BA%BA%E8%82%89+%E8%BE%B1%E5%8D%8E

seems to be still up: https://space.bilibili.com/19248926 again, it is normal for tucker carlson and alex jones to be occasionally suspended

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[–] vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago

It's almost as if the speech restrictions and human rights violations are grossly exaggerated or entirely misreported by companies that are exclusively funded by the US intelligence community. . .

Don't get me wrong, some still do exist (especially on the company side of things). Since, you know, it's a country consisting of 1/7th of humanity; but equally it's pretty silly to think 1/7th of humanity is too stupid to do anything about a single supposedly hyper repressive government that allegedly doesn't let them speak against it.

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