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[–] arcine@jlai.lu 18 points 6 hours ago

In 2018 I was also enthusiastic about OpenAI, I didn't expect them to try to destroy the world. They were litterally selling themselves on doing the exact opposite.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I forget but wasn't anthropic mostly made up of former OpenAI engineers after Altman went off the deep end?

Not that it makes them any better, but I'm pretty sure GPT-3 was the nexus point in the current mess we have now, which means they hopped off right after it was internally finished and made their own company.

2018 was a full 2 years before that point, and back then AI was still primarily stuff like OpenCV, Pytorch projects, etc. that were things you could legitimately run on one or two workstation GPUs or even a cheap tensor core addon if you didn't want to run on CPU.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

GPT-2 was released 14 February 2019 so they were actually cool gaming AI opensource research foundation in 2018.

[–] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 13 points 14 hours ago

Remember that OpenAI were the people behind the DotA-playing model, back in 2017, called OpenAI Five.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 42 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Insane how true this is.

No wonder 1999 feels like a million years ago.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I love how everyone is so desperate to make Gabe to be a terrible person.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It's crazy for people to take a stance against him considering how much he's done to protect the hobby from less reputable corps.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml -5 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

God imagine the world we'd live in if he didn't build modern child gambling with his own two hands

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Are you mistaking him for the inventor of Pokémon cards, Richard Garfield, or the inventor of baseball cards, John Baseball?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Said 'modern' for a reason, but I guess telling someone they're wrong is worth ignoring what they say

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

Things to say when you want to make being a piece of shit into a good thing

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 7 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

He may be a middle man rent seeking on the entire gaming industry, but you can't hate him because of all those great game series he never finished

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 34 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I can't hate him since he broke Windows monopoly in gaming.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Oh no he runs a buisness, grow up.

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 5 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

What would you call someone who has $1B worth of yachts while we're all struggling to eat and pay bills?

[–] Soulg@ani.social 1 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm a lot less angry at him than the ones who seemingly use their wealth exclusively to make our lives worse. He just has a bunch of money to buy boats. He's the last on the list for me

[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 1 points 48 minutes ago* (last edited 47 minutes ago)

yes, but valve still exploits people. They put on steam sales explicitly to get people to buy more. Especially poor people. More, that they otherwise might not be able to afford just because "it's on sale!"

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago

Like Torvalds, Stallman and Wozniak, Gabe Newell had an idea of how he thought technology should work and has never let up on it, it's a shame they couldn't profit as much as Gabe.

The yacht hobby is a bit much but compared to the standard billionaire hobbies, destroying the planet, rape, and murder, he's pretty mild.

[–] Bigfishbest@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] osanna@lemmy.vg 6 points 17 hours ago

insert "they're the same thing" meme

[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 306 points 1 day ago (46 children)

Obligatory reminder that billionaires are not our friends. But also, donating to AI research in 2018 is quite a different matter than if he had done so in recent years. Most people in tech were somewhere between neutral and enthusiastic towards machine learning back then and few foresaw the monster it would become. Doubt he's as enthusiastic nowadays, considering what it did to Valve's hardware ambitions.

[–] greybeard@feddit.online 195 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OpenAI, back then, was also a very different organization. They were mostly a non-profit, claiming to be a research organization who's goals were to ensure AI benefited all of humanity. Hell, I'd say Whisper, which that OpenAI did release, was very positive for humanity. It was when Sam Altman saw big dollar signs in GPT2+ that things started changing fast.

[–] zout@fedia.io 52 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Very much this, in 2023 there was a falling out between Altman and the board of OpenAI over this, and Altman was kicked out. However some big shareholders (Microsoft) made a stink and reversed it.

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We acting like people in the art community weren't hyped up over AI until they started generating images. Before chatgpt, it was all about automating coding/it and other jobs that arent considered art. Back then it was all about how everyone could pursue their passions. The only people not excited were all the transportation employees and factory workers that had been told by the general public how excited they were to replace them

[–] loonsun@sh.itjust.works 32 points 1 day ago

As a social scientist, pre Chat GPT NLP was like opening a whole new world of possibilities. We could finally at scale analyze one of the richest sources of behavioural data in an empirical statistically driven manner.

Now, even as I do research with NLP to continue these goals, I can't bring myself to every defend these tools. If they disappeared tomorrow, we'd lose a tool but we'd prevent so much undue suffering

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 115 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The writing was on the wall for years. I remember memes about Altman in machine learning forums/chatrooms circa 2020, and especially 2021.

Nothing's changed. Anyone in the space who actually looked at what he was doing, knew. Yet the bulk of the public (and investors) lapped the Tech Bro stuff up.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Aaron Swartz said Altman was a sociopath years before AI was a gleam in anyone's eye.

The technologies with the worst potential outcomes will always be pioneered by people with no ethical or moral hangups getting in the way.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which unfortunately are the same techs that will be elevated by our present economic structure, precisely because those traits are what enable them to make (or grift) a shitload of money.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

see:

Leaded Fuel and CFCs - the same fuckin guy!? goddamn hope there is a hell

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 62 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I mean, I probably would have invested in AI prior to seeing LLMs in action, too, hoping I was funding the cool kind of AI, not this lame shit.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 69 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

At that time it was still kind of a research project than a "it's going to take over everything" hype and FUD machine.

His opinions on AI today seem more enthusiastic than I would be, but well clear of the delusional level of AI-boosters.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Was this article commissioned by Tim Sweeney?

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 35 points 1 day ago

Before OpenAI about faced on being open?

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