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A woman and two children drowned in the Rio Grande on Friday while trying to enter the U.S. near a section of the southern border where Texas National Guard soldiers have prevented federal Border Patrol agents from processing and rescuing migrants.

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[–] ThrowawayInTheYear23@lemmy.world 80 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

Very much yes. And this time, let's complete the work.

[–] shani66@ani.social 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. I live in a southern shithole and i'd completely get it if America decided to bomb the entire place into a parking lot with no warnings.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

No, please, bomb it into something other than a parking lot at least. The south already has way too fucking many of those.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

America has invested a lot into bomb technology but we don't have one yet that will bomb something into, say, a library.

[–] drbluefall@toast.ooo 5 points 10 months ago

Could we bomb it into affordable housing?

[–] digeridoo@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

We should have reconstructed harder...

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 59 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Imagine being so shitty you make Border Patrol look like the fucking good guys.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 10 months ago

This is becoming a common refrain in Texas. The Uvalde shootings were bungled by multiple Texas agencies; it was Border Patrol agents who eventually stopped the shooter.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago

Conservatives rejoice at the misery, oppression and death they cause. This is who conservatives are.

[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 46 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right after Abbott said Texas would shoot migrants.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/01/greg-abbott-texas-shoot-migrants-border-biden-murder/

He said he doesn't because Biden would charge them for murder. Charge them now.

[–] kubica@kbin.social 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You could divert the trolley without killing anyone but they are immigrants what do you do?

[–] Kalkaline@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago

Is there a way to flood one side of the tracks, run the trolley over the other, and kill everyone on board the trolley and the switchman to own the libs?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Can we give Texas back to Mexico so they can learn a little bit about human rights?

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So, these agents hear about an emergency situation at the park, but when they get there Texas state cops don't want to let them enter, so the agents... Just give up and go home? Gosh, no wonder people in Congress are talking about more funding for securing the border, we apparently don't even give our Border Patrol firearms if this is how easy it is to stop them.

[–] Mamertine@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Are you suggesting the Border Patrol get into a shooting match with the TX national guard? Both sides are armed. It deserves a court case, not a gun fight.

[–] zbyte64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

Don't bring a gun to a tank fight. Don't even need to shoot back, just roll over them if they don't get out of the way.

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

On today's episode of "The cruelty is the point"

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 3 points 10 months ago

"We'll teach those goddamn migrants. How dare they come here searching for a better life?"

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 10 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Biden needs to send the Army in and take over the Texas Border enforcement.

Army outranks the National Guard, especially the state ones. The POTUS absolutely also does have power to command any National Guard unit to stand down as well.

[–] TommySalami@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Biden needs to send the Army in and take over the Texas Border enforcement.

He legally can't. He is not able to unilaterally use the military as a domestic police force. This keeps the executive from using the military as their personal cudgel.

I agree with the strong arming via national guard though. I think there are some hoops, but there's absolutely plenty of precedent for a president taking command of a state's national guard (specifically in regard to border control as well).

[–] Melody@lemmy.one 5 points 10 months ago

He absolutely can send an army unit with Orders to enforce his orders to the Nat. Guard.

[–] CaptainProton@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Not police force, but actually to patrol the border? Isn't that what they were set up to do? (Albeit to defend against state actors and not individuals)

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

nah man just open the border and hand them into the custody of amazon or walmart

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

That would be a step up from the meat packing plants, crop picking, and dishwashing they usually get.

[–] CaptainProton@lemmy.world -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ironically, pretty close to what Texas wanted before being forced to do it themselves when the federal government did nothing about their complaints except denounce them for political points.

[–] Djtecha@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Why is the federal government waiting for access from a state like Texas? Their officials are monsters and should be steamrolled to save lives.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

This crime occurred when people were crossing the border. The FBI needs to get involved and charge all involved with giving the order and physically restraining the agents with two counts of murder, and all present (excepting the Border Patrol agents) with accessory to murder.

[–] SrTobi@feddit.de 6 points 10 months ago

When they grandly talk that every soldier must refuse orders going against human rights, and if not, be legible to be tried and punished afterwards, they are talking about these kind of orders...

[–] 000@fuck.markets 5 points 10 months ago

I didn't realize states had the power to block federal personnel from performing their duties. Maybe they should activate the National Guard to protect the border patrol guys so they can do their jobs.

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Someone should push greg abbott down a flight of stairs. There is no god and my proof is that greg abbott is not currently on fire.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago