Technology

With that in mind, take them from the adults too lol. I know some adults who are chronically online

Yeah, but explain that to the children, especially young ones.

I do teaching, and when I set rules about not using phones during class - I put mine to the pile too. You can present the most compelling argument ever, but there's a much higher chance it's gonna reach fifth graders if you actually practice what you preach, and show the example of self-discipline, otherwise it will feel dishonest or unfair to kids, because they're kids.

Their brains are literally not fully developed. Some facets of life they're literally ill-equipped to handle and policies should reflect that.

I wonder if some of those critics are by an odd coincidence funded by phone related entities.

I agree with you that adults having smart phones is a different problem than children having smart phones.

Here's where you lose me. The critique isn't that adults are distracted. The critique is that being a role model means modeling the same behavior and showing by doing. That is the argument I see disengenuously misrepresented in this comment section again and again. That is a separate argument from adults have a problem with using their phones at inappropriate times during the work day/adults are addicted to their phones.

I can also unilaterally state that smart phones are also addictive for adults and are also bad for our mental health and well being.

The fact is, adults absolutely do have problems with staying on task and avoiding their phones during the work day. I see this in the field I work in and in other fields. This is so prevalent there are whole industries where its common to see "no mobile devices allowed in vehicles" stickers and decals on work trucks.

I said this before: I know schools that do not have cell phone bans yet the students simply don't use them. Its called engagement and respect, and teaching kids appropriate use.

I think considering laws like this says more about a broken education system (or lack of parenting) than a cell phone problem.

Don't be silly, we simply need to ban phones for adults and we'd solve a BUNCH of other problems too...

And the tobacco industry. And the gamling industry.

Yeah wtf? TONS of things have a set of rules for adults and kids, that’s literally what being a minor means… how is this a bad thing? Adults aren’t kids, kids aren’t adults… why should they be treated the same?

Critics don't want to hear that young people whose brains aren't fully developed yet have poorer impulse control than adults...

But young people whose brains aren't fully developed yet have poorer impulse control than adults.

On the "different rules for adults and students" thing... if the adults model responsible cell phone use, i.e. never in the classrooms or hallways during school hours, never "ducking out" to their car or the teachers' lounge just for B.S. doom scrolling or un-necessary calls, IMO that would be much stronger than just banning phones on-prem for kids and adults alike.

The real key: you should control your cell phone, it should not control you - same thing as so many other addiction problems. And, there will be addicts who genuinely are incapable of controlling it, and cold turkey tee-total zero usage has been shown to be the most effective answer for them - just like alcoholism, not drinking is nothing to be ashamed of, having a problem and drinking anyway is much much worse.

i suspected it as much. teens have been recording inappropiate behaviour by school admistrations. any statutory rape, relationship they dont want that to hit neews. before cellphones, i caught 1-2 professors/instructers using outdated or misinformed facts in bio. this probably where its good to fact check

this is nonsense.

Things can literally go back to this with zero negative consequences. The only parents that are upset about this are the ones with deeply co-dependent relationships with their kids. My wife is a teacher and when her school briefly had kids put their phones in pouches, a lot of her students told her they felt relief from feeling like they have to check their phone constantly. This ban will help with teacher burnout too. Teachers spend a ridiculous amount of time trying to get their students to put their phones away. It should have been put into law years ago. Also, the teachers don't have time to check their phone during class, so the comment about role modeling is complete bullshit.

Same, we had texting and snake, but if the teacher saw you doing either (aside from maybe shop class) they would confiscate it til the end of class.

Most will never see a laptop that isn’t chained up

Windows is incredibly unwieldy but one thing it is not is that it’s not chained up