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[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 108 points 11 months ago (11 children)

A new wave of slowdowns is hitting users, with the only resolutions being disabling the ad blocker or upgrading to premium.

Or just switching to ublock origin.

Or just switching to newpipe.

Or just switching to freetube.

etc

etc

etc

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have ublock origin on firefox and it's really bad for me currently. This has traditionally been the good combo I believe.

Not just slowing down, but stopping, then restarting after skipping a few seconds that you cannot access no matter what.

For now the best solution I've found is to copy the video url, open potplayer and just hit the paste command and the video runs flawlessly.

So they'll have to close that loophole eventually, which means enshittifying the video streaming protocol for everything that isn't the native web viewer, which will inconvenience more people who were used to something working, leading to another workaround, leading to...

Youtube is gradually accelerating their enshittification. I'm looking forward to when it comes to a real head. Too many serious interested parties rely on it. I don't know if peertube will be the first fallback, but I'm sure it'll get a big bump.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Change your useragent to Chrome.

It breaks the detection of your adblocker… for now.

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[–] lloram239@feddit.de 76 points 11 months ago (26 children)

I'll never understand why they spend so much effort pushing ads into people's faces that don't want see them and so little making ads more attractive.

A very large chunk of what people consume these days is effectively already ads. Every Youtuber holding a product into the camera is an ad. And people want to watch that. They want to know what new products are out there. It just has to presented appropriately.

Forced ads with mandatory 5sec isn't making people interested in your product, heck, numerous times I might have been interested in a product, but lost interested since I couldn't rewind the ad or because the ad didn't link to anything that gave me further information. A 15min video from a Youtuber reviewing a product in detail is way more effective than any regular ad I have ever seen, yet there are almost no ads in that style.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Too be honest I was fine with seeing an ad every few videos. But at some point it became unskippable ads before , during and after a video.

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[–] NocturnalEngineer@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (9 children)

I never had an issue with YT's 1-2 skipable ads at the beginning, or even the banner ad. But they got greedy.

The midrolls and the unskipable ads was the trigger point for me.

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[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

A very large chunk of what people consume these days is effectively already ads

That’s what grinds my gears. I understand ads pay bills, but showing multiple ads before a trailer for a video game or movie is excessive.

[–] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Plus nearly all advertising is insultingly stupid as to appeal to idiots.

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[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (5 children)

There is potentially a world in which you want to see ads because ads themselves do technically provide a service. You do want to know about things you care about and would want to buy… you just don’t want it obnoxiously shoved into your face all of the time in psychologically manipulative ways.

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[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 44 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Frankly, I'd stop using YouTube entirely before I'd start using it without an adblocker. At least there are no signs of it slowing down for me, yet.

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[–] davemeech@lemmy.ca 40 points 11 months ago (9 children)

So I have YouTube premium but also have ad-blocker, for the first time yesterday I was noticing absolutely abysmal speeds on YouTube and I suspect this is why. I thought my computer was starting to shit the bed initially it was so brutal.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was wondering if this was coming. I don't use YouTube in-browser much if at all, so I don't see this. But I am not surprised. The fact that they're slowing down people who pay for premium is kind of an act of war. It shouldn't be a thing, and the fact that it's happening at all is a misstep on Google's part. Not that the whole slowing down people who use ad blockers isn't. But this will detrimentally affect adoption of premium subscribers which I thought was the last thing they'd want. Because they obviously don't make enough off ad revenue to support the platform. That's part of why they push premium so hard. They need more premium subscribers. This is idiocy.

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[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I have YouTube premium

Wow, so you pay them and they still screw you? Glad that’s a product I’ll never buy then!

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[–] Dehydrated@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

That's why Invidious exists.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 23 points 11 months ago

Apparently this seems to be mainly affecting Chrome users, lol.

[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (4 children)

And still, I’m more likely to stop using YouTube than to stop using an ad blocker.

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[–] ConstipatedWatson@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Good things come to those who wait (and block ads)

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also I'd rather wait without ads than wait with ads, like what's the point?

[–] ConstipatedWatson@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

If you wait in front of an empty screen it's much more pleasant than being in front of visual and audio spam drilling into your head.

It's of course true that YouTube can't support a website for free, so it would be the correct thing to watch some ads: problems arising are that (A) some ads are malicious (either as misinformation or as viruses or as links to those), (B) they've grown from a reasonable amount to an unreasonable one and often interrupted at the worst possible time)

[–] Somecall_metim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Oh no (continues to watch on freetube) anyway....

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[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago

Fuck YouTube

[–] S_204@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Trying to use it via Firefox is pointless. I just downloaded the video and pirated. Fuck YouTube.

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