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A suspected YouTube interface bug spikes RAM usage above 7 gigabytes, users report severe lag and frozen tabs — bug might be trapping browsers in an endless layout loop (www.tomshardware.com)

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Lemme guess: it works perfectly fine in chrome. Google has been using this sort of anticompetitive tactic for years to wage war against other browsers.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Yes. I regularly have to either close Firefox or kill the GPU process in it so it'll free up RAM. Worst I saw it was at 13GB.

[+] Chozo@fedia.io -60 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Unpopular opinion: If it works in the engine that 70+% of devices are using, then it works. If it doesn't work in your non-Chrome browser, then your browser is what's broken.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not also unpopular, but also wrong.
Often times firefox is following the css specifications in how to process it and chrome isnt. Developers then do things, see it works in chrome and leave at that, not knowing what they did is wrong and broken.

On top of that logic of yours, ie10 was like the perfect browser and everyone should have kept making stuff compatible with it

[–] Zerot@fedia.io 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Except that it has been found in the past that Google/YouTube has been serving different html to Firefox than to Chrome. If they would be serving the same html, then you might have a point. But even then, Google can push through non standard changes to both chrome and YouTube before Firefox even has had a chance of making it compatible.

[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago

You'd be rooting for ie6 some years ago. Indeed an unpopular opinion.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago

The problem here is that antitrust does not work correctly and google hasn't been legally forced out of the industry due to anticompetitive tactics

[–] lime@feddit.nu 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

that would be a more relevant opinion if google hadn't made itself head of the web standards committee and is changing things so fast that the only party able to keep up is google.

[–] john_t@piefed.ee 11 points 2 days ago

Not to mention the amount of websites that suddenly start working of Firefox once you change the user agent to Chrome. And I remember Google slowing downs youtube/gmail on the server side when it detects a non-google browser.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Turns out that's not how standards work. If all browsers implement the standard and your product doesn't function properly on every single one of them, the problem is your product, even if it's just a single one.

[+] Chozo@fedia.io -25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If all browsers implement the standard

That's exactly the issue: Firefox isn't implementing the same standards as other browsers.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

firefox is implementing the standard. google, with something like fifteen times the devs and control of the WHATWG, modifies the standard so that their stuff is in there. in that situation it's impossible to do anything but play catch-up. and right now they're the only other browser that matters.

like, imagine if the same company sold 50% of all cars on the road as well as 70% of gas stations, then suddenly switched to a new proprietary nozzle that only works in their cars, leaving everyone else scrambling to try and design something compatible. would you say the remaining 30% of gas stations were doing it wrong?

[–] Chozo@fedia.io -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

firefox is implementing the standard.

If that was the case, pages would work in Firefox as they do in other browsers.

Whatever the reason or whoever you want to blame, the bottom line is that Firefox does not meet the standards of modern browsers, period. You can blame Google if you want, but it doesn't change the fact that Firefox doesn't do what is expected of it. For better or for worse. It's not a matter of "who is more evil?" because they're all evil (including Mozilla), it's a matter of "which of these products actually work?" And Firefox doesn't work.

And I say this as somebody who used to be a diehard Firefox supporter. The Mozilla Foundation was the first charitable donation I made when I first started working and earning money. I liked the promise they showed, but they've become just like the rest.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 days ago

of course theyre both evil, but only one of them is using their monopoly-like position to gradually close the market so that no other browser engine can ever be compliant again.

out of curiosity, what do you encounter that doesn't work?

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Funny that playing videos and use any other websites except YouTube works on Firefox without crashing the browser, don't you think?

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

Keep the faith

[–] QuadratureSurfer@piefed.social 11 points 3 days ago

According to comments related to the investigation, the interface repeatedly checks whether all buttons fit within the available horizontal space. If the controls overflow, the system hides one of the buttons to free space. However, hiding the button changes the container's width, immediately creating a new problem.

Once the button disappears, the available width appears enough for the interface to believe there is room again, causing the hidden button to reappear. The buttons then overflow once more, forcing the interface to hide the button again. The cycle repeats continuously at extremely high speeds.

I wonder if this affects any pages that have YouTube videos embedded as well.