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Aliens have not been discovered in South America after all. The doll-like figures, photos of which went viral online last year, are just that – dolls, according to scientists.

The controversial artifacts were seized by Peruvian customs agents in October and intended for "a Mexican citizen," the Associated Press reported.

Mexican journalist and self-described "UFOlogist" Jaime Maussan brought similar unidentified fraudulent objects in front of the Mexican congress last September, claiming that they had been recovered near Peru's ancient Nazca Lines and dated over 700 years old.

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"They are not extraterrestrials, they are not intraterrestrials, they are not a new species, they are not hybrids, they are none of those things that this group of pseudo-scientists who for six years have been presenting with these elements," Estrada said.

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[–] Nutteman@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Rushed to check r/ufos and of course this is nowhere to be seen on in that cess pit lmao

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 months ago

Shocking!

/s

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago
[–] sndrtj@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago

You don't say!

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Jaime Maussan has been a fucking griefter for such a long time. I don't get how he still has so much credibility in the media. Fuck Televisa for giving him a platform for so long.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world -4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean . . . yeah, we figured.

However the timing of them rolling these out to the Mexican Congress while they were hearing the same testimony about the UAP the Pentagon has been seeing, a month after that same information was presented to the US Congress, is kind of tragic.

Here we have several military witnesses following up an unprecedented statement that UFOs are real from the Pentagon (In 2021) and it should have been part of an international collaboration on the phenomena.

Except these jokers rolled out these dolls and spent all that media capital on bullshit. So no one even read about the UAP part of it.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

UFOs have always been real, they've never been alien. It's just an unknown object of phenomenon being detected.

An alien civilization sophisticated enough to travel to earth would be emitting radios waves for hundreds if not thousands of years prior. Earth is covered in a wide array of telescopes pointed at space and we haven't heard anything yet. In fact some suspected cases turned out to be microwaves in the break room and oscillating black holes, none aliens.

It's likely we are the first sophisticated civilisation able to travel to another planet, and we are no where near travelling outside our solar system never mind our galaxy.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

An alien civilization sophisticated enough to travel to earth would be emitting radios waves for hundreds if not thousands of years prior. Earth is covered in a wide array of telescopes pointed at space and we haven't heard anything yet.

We probably wouldn't know the signals when we see them.

It assumes that alien civilizations would be broadcasting regular repeating signals at high power. In my lifetime we've moved from high power repetitious analog signals to much lower power digitally encrypted and compressed signals.

Encrypted and compressed signals look random to an observer who doesn't know the keys/algorithms. On top of that, we've moved from individual huge transmitters (e.g. TV stations) to a plethora of tiny transmitters (e.g. cell phones). In a single human lifetime.

If we don't scorch our civilization out of existence, we'll adopt even lower power communication systems: point to point lasers, CPU-intensive encoding systems, and probably even more exotic stuff. Our signals will disappear into the background noise of space.

We don't know what to look for.

we are no where near travelling outside our solar system never mind our galaxy

I'm in full agreement with this one.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You realize humans have only had the ability to search for aliens using electronic equipment for less than 200 years right?

The universe is ~14 billion years old. The earth is only ~4 billion years old. Humanity is only ~200,000 years old.

You need to read about the Fermi paradox. The likelihood of extraterrestrial life existing is a mathematical certainty. We just haven't seen any due to a multitude of factors.

[–] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

If it existed within our observable limits we are likely to have heard of it.

The Fermi paradox doesn't imply sophisticated alien life exists on earth.

Of all observations we have have only found one species able to leave their planet deliberately. That's humans. There no evidence of any species leaving their solar system. Humans have never went beyond the moon, other than robots. Only one of which has reached the end of the solar system, but not entering another.

We also have no evidence of life on another planet to base any calculations on. The best estimate of life existing anywhere else is zero. You need another observation per planet to make any realistic estimate.

People are biased even physicts by the desire for extraterrestrial life. It adults looking for a father figure, we had god but once we went beyond the clouds and developed the ability to explain most phenomenon people look for a replacement. Someone to explain all our problems and give us solutions.