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Red Hat stops all upstream and downstream work on desktop Bluetooth, multimedia applications (namely totem, rhythmbox and sound-juicer) and libfprint/fprintd (hadess.net)

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[–] ssm@programming.dev 124 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What you are referring to as Red Hat is in fact IBM/Red Hat, or as I've recently come to calling it, IBM + Red Hat

[–] Paralda@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

I really hope journalists stop called IBM Red Hat. Red Hat is dead.

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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 100 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What do you get when you merge a company with IBM?

IBM.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 18 points 2 years ago

You get what you fuckin deserve!

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 13 points 2 years ago

Annoying commercials about "the cloud" and some robot they built 30 years ago.

[–] Remontoire@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] sombriks@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago

this is bad

[–] ebits21@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Thanks for linking the actual article!

[–] andruid@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Honestly, they just keep lowering the value paying them brings. Execs barely want to pay them in the first place, why would I as the engineer or IT solutioner care about putting money towards support if they keep abandoning projects...

[–] aard@kyu.de 1 points 2 years ago

For non-gnome-users none of that matters. Only thing I ever touched from that was upower, but not even using that.

[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 59 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hope that backfire on IBM.

[–] woelkchen@kbin.social 62 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, it will but so slowly and further down the road, nobody at IBM will see the connection. When Fedora (or desktop Linux in general) will be slightly less appealing to people who in 10 years will become the decision makers at IT departments, it'll weaken the position of Linux and in turn the commercial support providers.

Guess, everyone who does not yet own a Steam Deck needs to get one because Valve seems to be the biggest commercial proponent of consumer GNU/Linux.

[–] aport@programming.dev 54 points 2 years ago

Farewell, Red Hat. Thanks for all your good work throughout the years. Sucks you sold out to IBM

[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

These kind of changes are absolutely infuriating, and what's even worse, is that there's nothing we can do about it

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

and what’s even worse, is that there’s nothing we can do about it

Look I know it's much easier said than done, but you can choose to walk away from IBM and Red Hat over this. If these changes start to lose money, they'll respond. Otherwise they'll see how much abuse their customers are willing to put up with and start doubling down.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you mean that Fedora users should question if they want to keep using this distro? Because I do use Fedora, and I understand I'm "beta-testing" an enterprise product, but yeah, for me this changes my "relationship" with Red Hat. Or what do you mean?

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 5 points 2 years ago

I just don't want folks thinking they're trapped, because that's when a vendor will really start putting the screws to you.

[–] vsis@feddit.cl 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, Fedora and Gnome were embraced and extended by IBM.

You know what's next now.

[–] optissima@possumpat.io 33 points 2 years ago

Yep, Ubuntu will fork all of these, then trash them, introduce their alternatives, then drop support in 5 years.

[–] s4if@lemmy.my.id 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Welp.. Gnome will lost many of their contributor/maintainer.. Well, at least KDE folks is backed by Novell(SUSE) and XFCE is purely maintained by community already. It seems Linux desktop is still safe. lol

But this was it's year!

[–] Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

SUSE was an independent company before, during, and after its 5 years under Novell. That's a weird attribution to Novell when SUSE has always been the contributing company to Linux.

[–] s4if@lemmy.my.id 5 points 2 years ago

Oh, sorry.. I thought they are one from the start.. thx for correcting me.

[–] sadreality@kbin.social 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Corpo shills were never on the team pleb... just so happened it was good for them to do something that benefited FOSS. Now that is over, it seems.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

And that's alright. We got some stuff out of it that we wouldn't have gotten otherwise.

[–] staticlifetime@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

power-profiles-daemon is now archived? Dammit, that was a big one for Fedora.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

It was introduced as the default power manager on Ubuntu 22.04 as well. 🤔

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 11 points 2 years ago

I am a little concerned to step in front of the hate machine here but this feels like a continued move away from app dev to more infrastructural stuff as previously announced by them. If so, I am all for it as not everybody is going to use Rhythmbox or LibreOffice but we can all use HDR and other core tech that Red Hat will develop instead. They are one of the few Linux companies that can fund these large, technical projects. Having them working on apps feels like a waste of their engineering potential.

[–] phoenix591@lemmy.phoenix591.com 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

why did you link to a kbin view of another post right here on !linux@lemmy.ml ?

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

It happened before (on reddit), it will happen again (on Lemmy).

So say we all.

[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, The Enterprise Linux war is just getting better and better!

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You see contributing to Rhythmbox or not as part of the “Enterprise Linux war”?

[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I don't understand :P

[–] choroalp@programming.dev 9 points 2 years ago

There is no Way this is going to improve anything Red Hat's side

[–] secret301@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can someone tell me what this means for fedora?

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Very little I suspect. These specific packages may evolve less quickly but will still be available. None of them were Fedora specific.

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Let's hope the community will pick these up or some of the distro's like Ubuntu, Mint etc

[–] FreeBooteR69@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All these corporations looking to kill off their own relevance. They all in the same death cult or something?

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They all in the same death cult or something?

Yeah, capitalism it seems like.

I guess asking for sustainable business practices is too much to ask for from the system. "Sufficient" money is never good enough. Gotta try to get all the money, even if it means burning down everything one holds dear.

Hell, the system is literally willing to burn down the whole world in pursuit of more. The more you think about it, the more senseless it all becomes.