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I feel like this is a hack that is rarely talked about. And it's the most reliable method I've found for getting an email account that I can use for signing up to other websites.

Imagine you want to create a completely anonymous account on some website. Most websites require an email account to sign up. if you're lucky you can use one of those a temporary email services, but many websites block those nowadays. They only accept trusted email providers like Gmail, Protonmail, etc. And trying to make an anonymous account on those providers is difficult. Even Protonmail, surprisingly. If you try to sign up for Protonmail using a VPN or Tor, they will ask for a phone number or a second email account. So now you have to get a phone number anonymously (very difficult), or get another email account anonymously, back to square one.

Darknet markets solve this problem. Pay a bit of Monero, and you get an account. Completely anonymous. Now I won't pretend it's easy. Even just signing up for a darknet market often requires learning how to PGP encrypt/decrypt messages. But it only takes an 30 min or so to figure it out and sign up, and it opens up a new world of tools to use for privacy. There are many other types of accounts that you can buy aside from Protonmail, and many other products in general that you can buy.

I don't get why Protonmail doesn't just accept anonymous crypto as an option during signup, but until they do this is honestly the most reliable option I've found. I really wish more websites just accepted crypto for account creation. It's understandable that in order to prevent spam accounts, account creation has to cost something, and crypto allows it to cost something without costing your privacy.

Anyways, here's a quick guide to get started. I'll avoid direct links since I don't know if those are allowed.

  1. install Tor Browser Bundle, and use it for the following steps
  2. search for websites like Daunt, Dread forums, and Tor Taxi. Darknet markets change all the time so use those websites to figure out which ones are currently active. Cross-check links across multiple websites to make sure they are trustworthy, since often scam websites will try to pose as legitimate ones
  3. look for markets that let you search for the product you're interested in before signing up, to save you time
  4. some markets require you to load funds into the market and then pay using those funds. Avoid loading more than you need, since some markets have "rugpulled" before (aka taken everybody's funds and disappeared. This is the risk of an anonymous market).

Edit: also if for some reason a seller doesn't accept Monero, you can use a crypto swap. Basically you send the swap service some Monero, tell them what crypto to convert it to (like Bitcoin or Ethereum), and where to send it to. Many can be used anonymously, without signup

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[–] luckybart@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Hmmm. Is this a new development with protonmail? I have used VPN plus a throwaway/temporary email to get a protonmail account before.

[–] luckybart@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Hmmm. Is this a new development with protonmail? I have used VPN plus a throwaway/temporary email to get a protonmail account before.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Proton email is free and pretty easily accepts new throwaways without having to input any ID

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (5 children)

every time I tried using VPN or Tor, they asked for phone number or a second email address. For the second email address, I've tried temporary email services but they all got rejected. Any recs?

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[–] yuman@programming.dev 13 points 2 days ago (5 children)

get your old android phone, no phone # needed. install lineageos + gapps. go to some public wifi spot. register a fresh gmail account. jot the login down somewhere. reset/wipe your phone. you're done.

I'd rather stop communicating altogether than do anything that involves interacting with shitcoins in any shape or form.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Monero is really the only real anonymous currency, you SHOULD use it and so should everyone else. You shouldn't be okay having everything you do tracked.

I would love for a less environmentally impactful thing to be invented, but it doesn't exist yet.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

this doesn't work these days, google requires your phone number during signup even on android google app. also if you're using 'your' old android phone the IMEI is probably already tied as being owned by you..

[–] yuman@programming.dev 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I don't think that's correct as I've registered a fresh account as described, during the setup phase of a phone, within the last month and no phone number was needed. I'll give you the benefit of doubt as I don't want to do that again just to disprove a stranger on the internet, but if anything changed it had to change in this very, very recent period.

edit: the posit of OP was to open an account in order to be able to register to other accounts, not go jasonbourne on 5eyes and friends.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago

google's system is not simple, they have a very opaque process that determines whether the user's environment is "trustworthy" and asks for more information as needed.

it's still possible to create a new google account without explicitly tying a phone number in some cases, but it hasn't worked reliably for a very long time now.

until about 2023 creating it on an android <= 4.4 (kitkat) worked 100%, but now that also doesn't work.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Google wants all your infos, no way around that

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Using a nearby public wifi spot, means that the email provider has your approximate location. If the feds get involved, then combined with security camera footage they can likely track you down.

Monero provides a way for people to pay for things anonymously, and is a lot more convenient then trying to pay with cash anonymously. For some people, their privacy is more important than whatever qualms they may have against crypto. Clearly you are not one of those people, and that's fine

[–] pound_heap@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Obviously, your threat model matters. You didn't say in the original post anything about it, and the mainstream privacy methods, I believe, are mostly to protect from general surveillance by commercial entities. If you have to worry about feds, maybe just going offline is a safer choice.

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I mention "anonymous" in the title, and many times in the post, and explained the scenario at the start of the post. It's true that the mainstream does not need anonymity, but anonymity was clearly the goal of the post.

And I agree that this method alone won't save you from the feds. It's just one tool in the arsenal

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[–] Ch3rry314@piefed.social 16 points 2 days ago (8 children)

A much easier and safer way to generate an anonymous email if you live in the EU is to use Posteo.

After you create an account, you get an account code. You can pay by mail with account info on a piece of paper. €1/month. Mail off some Euro, no returned address required.

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[–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

cock.li has no kyc signup i think

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Haha well they may have the same problem with some services just not accepting emails from their url, they admit I'm the homepage that messages often end up in spam

[–] magic_smoke@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I make burner inboxes on tutanota for longterm, yopmail for short-term. You might have to try multiple exits, but eventually you can get tuta to let you make an account over TOR.

Why pay for a burner?

That being said if you need a burner SMS number, no good free alternative to that since those usually involve simfarming.

Been a fan of smspool for that reason.

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[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

this legit feels illegal/criminal. aren't those accounts stolen or made through identity theft?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

this is what they seem to be pushing privacy towards.

[–] hirihit640@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (22 children)

Not necessarily. Protonmail will happily let you create an account if you don't use a VPN or Tor. Such accounts are tied to your IP, so you can't create too many of them, which is all Protonmail cares about, since spam accounts reduce the trustworthiness of their email service. I really doubt sellers are going through efforts to steal accounts, if they can just make them for free at a coffee shop.

Darknet markets create a system where people can create accounts non-anonymously, and convert them into anonymous accounts by selling them to others. I wish this were more common. For example I'd love to be able to pay for an anonymous Youtube Premium account

Edit: also in case it reassures anybody, the accounts I got from the darknet were clearly freshly made accounts, not stolen. Only a few days old, and no emails except the "welcome to protonmail" one.

[–] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Not necessarily. Protonmail will happily let you create an account if you don't use a VPN or Tor. Such accounts are tied to your IP

Can't you just go somewhere that has public wifi and set up a Proton account from there? No VPN and they dont have your IP.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 2 days ago

But they have a rough idea about where you come from

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[–] marcie@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

you can use certain temp mail providers for protons secondary email verification, money involvement makes it more insecure

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[–] ianhclark510@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (27 children)

Man, if you really think some darknet service is going to be more reliable just because Protonmail wants a specific kind of fiat

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[–] voxel@feddit.uk 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)
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