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Meta just announced that they are trying to integrate Threads with ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.). We need to defederate them if we want to avoid them pushing their crap into fediverse.

If you're a server admin, please defederate Meta's domain "threads.net"

If you don't run your own server, please ask your server admin to defederate "threads.net".

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[–] Gallardo994@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'd personally at least give them a chance. Defederating is a pretty easy process and can be performed at any point in time. At least some Threads users may as well get to know about Lemmy and switch to it.

Upd: yes I do understand many people don't trust Meta and neither do I. But I also understand lots and lots of users here are using anonymous accounts, and federation information is already public to begin with. Combining the fact that Fediverse may gain more than it may lose, including more users, original content, recognition and etc, I generally think it's worth the risk. I am generally content with any decision, just sharing my two pennies of thought.

[–] FaceDeer@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah, close that protocol! Build the walls around our garden higher! No need to wait for them to actually do something worth defederating over, we just don't like them!

This is silly. A major social media network is trying to join the Fediverse and everyone's keen on stopping it. If Meta does something dirty or damaging, sure, defederate them then. But I was kind of hoping that open protocols would flourish, not just end up as another bunch of balkanized forums and Reddit-likes.

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[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I hate Zuck and Facebook as much as the next person, but I think the rollout is going slowly enough that we don’t need to fight about it yet.

The discussion is important and needs to be had, but it’s premature.

[–] Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The best case scenario of letting Meta in is neutrality. Far more likely is then actively destroying stuff. Remember, their motto is move fast and break things

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So what are they going to do?

The whole "Oh they'll microsoft it!"-narrative is clearly false already. As plenty people said the last time someone posted that sensationalist "how to kill the fediverse" (or so) blog post already, this is not about Meta trying to "kill" the fediverse. If anything, the opposite. This is them Mozilla-ing it, using it as a defense against new regulations. They can even point to instances defederating en masse as "See? We tried! They're all blocking us, so it's not our fault this cross-compatibility isn't working." and then in the future use that as a defense against further attempts to open up walled gardens. They tried, the supposedly "open" side actively blocked it, now the other side has to move before they try again.

People misunderstand the actually extremely obvious reason they're doing this. There's also an easy reason they're dragging their feet so much: They don't want to. But they have to. So they promise they'll federate, actively hope they get blocked (see above), and only actually do it last-second to avoid issues with new legislation.

[–] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago
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[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I want a server where users can make these decisions for themselves.

Fuck this mob-mentality spurred upon by losers.

[–] bluefirex@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And another attempt at blanket hating on a platform for no reason. Be more original, people.

Edit: if YOU don't like it, sure block it. But don't force your backwards decision on everyone else.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 2 years ago

Why not just let them choose instead of trying to get users to brigade them? Personally I want my insurance federated with Threads.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

What exactly is "pushing their crap"? Chances are it will be more moderated and less arbitrary than what passes through from some lemmy instances. Hatred and misinformation? Harvesting your data? Like this isn't already a factor with lemmy? In the Fediverse, we have admins who flagrantly break their own TOS. Plus it seems to me this is an opportunity for lemmy to get advertisement at Threads' expense.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org -1 points 9 months ago

Better yet, I'll request the admin specifically to federate with Threads, so that I can move across the stuff that I care about to mbin from the Threads app.

[–] CapitanStrider@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 years ago

If I don't like it I won't look at it, simple as.

[–] v_raton@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

Sadly i dsagree with you, nobary cares about this peace of junk (seriously, microblog without hashtags?). Also i think is fedverse is a great place in general and i trust in all instances moderators, and any bot or think like this have interesting in us. I don;t worry about, for me is one more day with meta bulshit, thatś it

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Defederation is cancer and it will kill Fediverse faster than any Meta.

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