Give em a few years, and they'll have more powerful, cheaper GPUs than anything US manufacturers can make.
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Let them cook we need more competition
Its only a matter of time untill a gaming pc made out of Chinese architecture components is legally considered by the US to be a weapon of mass destruction.
Didn‘t expect anything less (or more) to be honest. Not at the moment. 5 years from now, though? It‘s entirely possible most new PC hardware will be made by Chinese brands that we have never heard of.
What? A baby GPU didn't do as well as an experienced professional with decades of experience?? I am in shock -_-
I'm surprised they can't just smuggle the chip designs and factory designs from Taiwan, they're so close
Not sure it's required. Patent documents are public.
Nvidia’s middle finger to China is the reason they’ve developed open weight models like Qwen 3.6 27B that have modest compute requirements with performance catching up to frontier models. They have plenty of motivation to give Nvidia the middle finger right back, and I fully anticipate that a couple years from now, we will see Chinese open models on par with frontier models while also having inexpensive Chinese hardware to run them.
Already cursor model is already built on top of kimi Chinese model. This recently leaked, oupsies
Ah, hadn’t heard that, and I see there’s a TechCrunch article about it: https://techcrunch.com/2026/03/22/cursor-admits-its-new-coding-model-was-built-on-top-of-moonshot-ais-kimi/
Only 1/4th of the training was from Kimi, though, even though the model id evidently says it’s Kimi. 🙄
At least someone tries to compete. I'd get a slower Chinese any day over the fucking greedy nvidias. Spent 2500 for my last GPU. In 1990 I bought 2 high end computers for that. And some groceries. And go to the movies....
I'm so fed with all this. China will be the long-term winner in nearly everything.
$2,500 in 1990 is worth $6,369.93 today
That's not entirely true. You can't squirrel away 1990's $2500 and have it worth $6300 today. The more accurate statement would be that because of inflation (and also greedflation), what you once purchased with $2500, now takes $6300. This decrease in purchasing power, most recently, was brought almost entirely by price collusion, corporate greed, and a lack of regulation enforcement.
However, if you'd invested 2500 in 1990, it would be worth more than 6300.
in an s&p500 index fund, a hell of a lot more.
nasdaq100... just wait a couple of months
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Considering a PC in the 90s was not the total mainstream-thing it is today, Also i pulled that outta my ass, Don't actually remember that old prices. BUT my first 3DFX, top of the line was like 500€. "Incredibly expensive" back then. Today you'd get some shitty entry-model for kids for 500€.
Not much needs more than a 4060
Can confirm. I'm still rocking a 1070 Ti on a 1440 monitor and it more than meets my needs, granted I'm playing somewhat older AAA games. Looks like a 4060 is even better.
They will improve and quickly.
Now that intel is likely out of the race, they are out last hope
it takes time to develop a tech like that.
as an example, China decided to invest in animation after Kung Fu Panda. slow process with a lot of internal movies, and a couple years ago they released the most successful animated movie in history.
Let them cook
For anyone else interested I've read it's called Ne Zha 2, $2+ billion gross
Beat Zootopia 2
Is Intel rumored to drop it's GPU line? Haven't really kept up to date lately.
Intel Arc has been out for a while and while it technically competes it's not good enough or stable enough to handle the high end.
Intel isn't out of the race. The Chinese gpu have mostly issue related to driver as intel had when they started and intel had igpu so it s gonna be hard for chineese one to catch back but they will
Nvidia have invested heavily in them and the writing is on the wall. We will see what happens.
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Still gaming on a Vega56 @ 1080p.
As the article itself points out, drivers remain as the main issue for Chinese graphics cards. Though they seem to have made great improvements compared to 2 years ago. I'm quite excited to see how they work on it further in the next few years.
I've been gaming on an old AM4 motherboard, a B450 that was low spec when I bought it, it's been over five years now. I've been running a 4070ti on it for three years and I'd love to upgrade it but I'm not excited about Nvidia right now and there isn't a company on the planet that seems to want to offer me an alternative. At least China is flooding us with cheaper RAM.
I moved to a 9070XT from a 3070 and love it. I am a Linux gamer convert after falling in love with Steam OS. Nvidia on Linux is too much of a hassle imo. Plus my 9070XT on Linux smokes my 3070 on windows.
For a Linux user AMD is definitely better but it’s morally no different than NVIDIA. Lisa Su is all-in on AI and the Trump admin. Which is what I'm assuming they meant by saying nobody wants to sell them a new GPU.
I do not buy products based on company morals. There is almost no publicly traded company that won’t sell the consumer out in a heartbeat.
If I bought components based on company good/bad I wouldn’t even be able to build a computer.
NVIDIA - Bad, Ai bubble, oligarchy AMD - Just as bad, Nvidia coat tail rider, oligarchy Intel - Bad, poor consumer practices for years Any company making RAM- bad, participates in price fixing and only get a slap on the wrist.
The only company on this planet I will blindly buy from is Costco. The CEO said “if you change the price of the $1.50 hotdog combo I’ll fucking kill you” - good
Otherwise I just buy what I need from where I can get it and move on with my life. Even avoiding Amazon is dumb since they make most of their money from AWS which means you’d have to boycott most of the internet.
I do not buy products based on company morals.
You don't, but the comment you replied to said:
but I’m not excited about Nvidia right now and there isn’t a company on the planet that seems to want to offer me an alternative
Which is pretty clearly about the moral implications of choosing a Nvidia card vs the lack of any real alternatives (and AMD itself being no better than Nvidia).
If you have no moral qualms about it, there's near zero reason to go AMD or Intel anyway. Nvidia drivers start working fine on Linux once you use a mainstream distro and avoid the KDE+Wayland combo. Performance tends to be better for the same money and you get CUDA.
Did you ever upgrade the CPU?
I am also still on AM4, started with a Ryzen 2700 (non-X) and then bought a 5800X later. I also upgraded from a RX 580 to RX 6800 four years ago. No real reason to change anything since. I'm really happy with the longevity.
Yeah I started with a 1700x then a 2700x then a 5800x. I also used to have an RTX 3060ti. My daughter is currently running the 2700x with the 3060ti. I try to upgrade periodically and pass my most recent hardware to my kids. I would upgrade again soon if prices were good but they are not good.
Not a fan of amd gpus?
Morally no different than NVIDIA. Lisa Su is all-in on AI and the Trump admin.
Without depending on many externalities.
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