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[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

As a white man from this era I always preferred the pixie.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 62 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Young people have no idea what it used to smell like. For a decade everything reeked of smoke and hairspray.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 37 minutes ago

It was awesome.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

now that you mention it, cheese burgers taste different than they used to because of this most likely.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 21 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You could taste it in the air

[–] FantasmaNaCasca@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Galadriel: Feel it in the water

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 36 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I do remember people complaining that the new hairspray didn't have any hold.

I also remember punks resorting to egg whites and Elmer's, but I can't say that I know that's related.

[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

I also remember punks resorting to egg whites and Elmer’s

Punks actually just did that anyway, even back when the good hairspray was still plentiful. Everyone just had their own "best" method that they swore by: egg whites, school glue, Knox gelatin, I even knew a couple of gutter punks who put their mohawks up with spray paint. I used to use an extra thick hair gel that you could only find in places where they sold hair care products for black people. I think most people probably preferred the hairdryer and AquaNet method though. It was cheap, relatively easy, and it worked.

[–] raptir@mander.xyz 163 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

Kids these days don't even know about the hole in the ozone later.

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I just told my kid about how we fixed acid rain through regulation just this morning

[–] MoffKalast@lemmy.world 26 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Well it's understandable, the concept of being able to actually cooperate and do something about the environment on a world scale instead of just blindly pretending it's not a thing until it kills us all is a bit hard to believe for younger generations for obvious reasons.

[–] BurgerBaron@quokk.au 6 points 3 hours ago

Well not to worry, all these internet swarm satellites might cause another one.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 155 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

It's kinda our last big environmental win.

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.dbzer0.com 92 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (3 children)

There's been some conservation wins that I know of. Okaloosa Darter fish came off of endangered status, and eventually off of threatened The Red Cockaded Woodpecker was elevated from endangered to threatened a few years ago.

Controlled burns in the US long leaf pine forests have also lead to a return of the quail population.

Just trying to sprinkle a little good news out there.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

American Bison, too. The repopulation of American bison (often mistakenly called buffalo) is one of the most successful repopulation efforts in history. The reason you’re able to order buffalo (again, not actually buffalo) burgers at your local hipster burger joint is because American bison is no longer endangered. The population has come from less than 1000 total bison (all privately owned by a handful of conservationists) to over 400k today.

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 hours ago

I had a Bison meatloaf once that was so good. It's so much lighter than beef. It was like eating a meat cloud.

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 28 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Cockaded Woodpecker

Now your just making shit up.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 10 points 4 hours ago

Winner of the "most penis euphemisms in one name" award.

[–] ruuster13@lemmy.zip 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The irony of all ironies is how similar the words "conservation" and "conservative" are.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 1 points 14 minutes ago* (last edited 13 minutes ago)

That's because the root of both is to conserve. To keep things the way they are.

Politics gets in the way of that reality since they don't actively want to keep it the same, they actually want to regress back to previous times they can exploit personally.

[–] DeadDigger@lemmy.zip 25 points 7 hours ago

The thing is it kinda isn't. The ozone layer still needs about 20 years to get back to 1960 levels and the number of problematic states for this increasing again

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Tbf, its not even yet a win technically.

TCO is expected to return to 1980 values around 2066 in the Antarctic, around 2045 in the Arctic, and around 2040 for the near-global average (60°N-60°S). - Source

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

So is that good news, that we’re moving in the right direction?

Though the very next sentence from that linked source says

The assessment of the depletion of TCO in regions around the globe from 1980-1996 remains essentially unchanged since the 2018 Assessment.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 1 points 4 hours ago

2018 to 2022 didnt see much change (and given how far until its fully returned to normal, I think you can see qhy - it takes a long time to fully heal), but we're certainly pretty far into success compared to where we were.

[–] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Most don't know that we have an ozone layer let alone that there is a hole in it.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

One of my coworkers insists that the hole in the ozone layer is an iris that expands and contracts for regulation. When I asked him what it was regulating, he just shrugged and gave a look that said "I don't know, you tell me"

He also claimed that believing that humans were capable of changing the global climate was pure hubris, despite the USSR deleting the Caspian sea decades ago.

And he thinks the wind turbines that have been installed in the past 10 years are making tornadoes worse, contradicting his claims that humans can't change the climate

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

“For regulation” is a pretty weird take, but it is self regulating (in the absence of pollution from humans). When the ozone layer is thin, more UV gets through from the sun. UV from the sun ionizes O2 and splits it apart, creating oxygen free radicals which recombine and create ozone. Thus, less ozone leads to more ozone, hence self-regulation.

I think your coworker may be a lost cause, do you think you could convince him that anti-freeze and turpentine will make him see god?

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

ozone later

Well that's because we're at now, not at later.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We've had one ozone yes, but what about later ozone?

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Triumph@fedia.io 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 points 25 minutes ago
[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

[gets hit on head by aerosol can.]

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 8 points 7 hours ago

Oh don't worry, it's coming back

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I thought the aerosols that affect the environment refer to the tiny aerosol particles at higher levels in the atmosphere.

Everyone in the 80s seemed to confuse the with aerosol hairspray, which wasn’t really a huge contributor. Still aren’t most sprays today generally not this so called aerosol style anymore?

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It was the Chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) that were used as the primary propellant in aerosol sprays. More commonly known by the brand name Freon. Notice that basically every aerosol can manufactured today has a “CFC Free” badge somewhere. Refrigerant systems also moved away from using actual Freon, and now use alternative refrigerants.

CFCs were actually invented by the same guy who invented leaded gasoline, Thomas Midgley Jr... He is probably the single most environmentally destructive chemical engineer in history.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 hours ago

On the plus side, one of his inventions killed Thomas Midgley Jr., arguably the most environmentally destructive chemical engineer in history

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 28 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I dont even really remember women actually wearing their hair like this, and I’m old as fuck.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 35 points 7 hours ago

yeah these look like 1+ hour styles that most people are only going to bother with for special occasions, unless they're an actor with a staff stylist and/or filthy rich

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 12 points 6 hours ago

When I think ozone destroying hair, I think teased 80s hair that A LOT of people wore

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

But non-aerosol gel exists for the same purpose. Why don't they use that?

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 hours ago

You can still buy aerosol hair sprays too they just don’t use CFCs

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

You can also use aerosol based ones, the propellant just has to be non crazy.

[–] brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

Like most people would change anything about their lifestyle for the common good... It just went out of style.

[–] Dr_Fetus_Jackson@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

If only we could get industrial manufacturing and energy production regulated to evolve in the same way that personal care is.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Sadly, you can't get the proper hold without CFCs...

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 19 points 6 hours ago

Is that so? How does the propellant matter?

[–] its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 hours ago

It has what plants crave.