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[–] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Of course, Apple doesn’t want to give up that much access to a competitor. Never mind the privacy implications. Could you imagine if a rogue actor got into the system-level of your iPhone, disguised as an AI assistant? That would be a huge headache and nightmare.

This article seems rather a bit biased. Apple didn't give their reasoning for it, and it seems presumptuous for Maxham to provide that reasoning, when it's unfounded.

It also doesn't seem like that big of an issue. Just have the assistant program run through the same permissions as a regular app, rather than as a system app, where you have to set the permissions you want to give it.

It also wouldn't be Apple's fault, any more than it would be their fault because you saw on Facebook that your iPhone had wireless charging, and stuck it in the microwave. People should be allowed to break their own devices. That's part of the risks of owning something, where things can just break if you use it wrong.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 42 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Could you imagine if a rogue actor got into the system-level of your iPhone, disguised as an AI assistant? That would be a huge headache and nightmare.

How about we let the users decide if they want to keep the default or not? These fucking companies are always using the privacy and security cqrd to push their walls and get full control of the devices we buy. And, of course, fucking media companies just serve as speakers for them.

[–] nightlily@leminal.space 22 points 16 hours ago

Right? The framing on this is diabolical - like I trust big American tech companies with that kind of access anymore than anyone else? I don’t want any of them giving an LLM access to my info.

[–] Redjard@reddthat.com 26 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Never mind the privacy implications. Could you imagine if a rogue actor got into the system-level of your iPhone, disguised as an AI assistant?

I don't see the point here. Assistants are inherently untrustworthy. They are unreliable, and can be taken over vy hostile actors. Or, from Apples perspective, by the user.
You can't let users jailbreak their phones using siri prompt injection, and you can't let siri perform any system actions or exfiltrate data without confirmations because it could go rogue or be taken over by some prompt smuggled into it by a hostile actor.
If you have to safeguard it anyway, and it is untrustworthx anyway, you already have to make it withstand everything an untrustworthy 3rd party implementation could do.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Interesting take, I agree it should be that way (i.e. sandboxed up the wazoo). Apple might even have done the sensible thing, but we'd have to trust them, which we can't, because closed source and megacorp that can't be trusted if they see dollar signs. Also, if they had, why complain about giving 3rd parties equivalent access, except maybe to spank the EU for having the temerity to hold them to higher standards. On balance, I expect critical vulnerabilities incoming.

[–] W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

“There was a problem loading the page…”

Yeah; I won’t allow your shitty advertising. That’s the real provlem.

http://archive.is/Skm0u

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

archive.is has injected ddos scripts into users browsers and other scandals. Do not use archive.is

[–] elvith@feddit.org 42 points 1 day ago

Never mind the privacy implications. Could you imagine if a ~~rogue actor~~ US tech giant like Apple or Google got into the system-level of your phone, ~~disguised as an AI assistant~~? That would be a huge headache and nightmare.

Wait...

[–] skankhunt42@lemmy.ca 97 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The last paragraph feel more like the authors opinion, which is a bit weird on an Android website.

I agree with the EU on this one though, I hate walled gardens and the EU is doing good work.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/09/eu-says-decision-not-to-launch-siri-ai-in-europe-is-apples/

There you go. I saw it on MacRumors yesterday. It's weird to see Apple stuff on an Android site, but Android Police used to review iPhones when they came out. They'd give them an honest try. Reviews even varied from "decent phone but I loved going back to Android" to "I could use this and be happy but I still prefer Android." I think they gave them a fair shake.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 7 points 16 hours ago

blaming regulators for ~~refusing to engage constructively on proposed solutions~~ wanting them to follow the law when they don't want to.

There, I fixed it.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The comments on that post are crazy delusional. How do you end up so far in a corporations pocket?

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 1 points 9 hours ago

Morpheus voice: You think that's ~~air you're breathing~~ people who are posting.

[–] baguette@piefed.social 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

And they all go quite when Apple politely obliges to whatever China demands from them. That site is the definition of toxic-fanboyism. So many commenters their blindly believe every declaration Apple makes.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago

There's one comment in there lamenting the lack of innovation from the EU. You know the continent that contains CERN. Yep ain't no innovation going on over here, it's amazing we even got internal plumbing.

But then again Americans aren't the smartest tools in the shed.

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[–] ravelin@slrpnk.net 8 points 20 hours ago

Could you imagine if a rogue actor got into the system-level of your iPhone, disguised as an AI assistant? That would be a huge headache and nightmare.

What is AI if not a rogue actor? Seems to me like Europe not getting Siri AI is Apple threatening them with a good time.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Here is Apple’s statement. They designed an API called “Trusted System Agent “ but the EU rejected it.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/06/due-to-dma-siri-ai-delayed-in-eu-for-ios-27-and-ipados-27/

[–] encelado748@feddit.org 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

This statement tells more about Apple than about EU. What DMA says is that third party API access must be on the same level as first party API access.

Apple would have to give any virtual assistant direct access to users’ private data — and the ability to directly control other installed applications

This simply means that Siri AI has direct access to users private data and the ability to directly control other installed applications.

the DMA requires Apple to give any AI system nearly unlimited access to a user’s device, as well as the ability to act on that access autonomously without a user’s ongoing visibility and control. That includes the ability to read and send messages, make purchases, access files, and execute actions across any app.

This is what Siri AI is doing.

The EU rejected Apple decision to not follow the law by giving Siri AI privileged access to users private data and apps while preventing others to do the same.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

True. It will be interesting to see if Apple:

  • continues to work on the API
  • releases the API in other regions (like North America)
  • eventually moves their own AI to this API (eating their own dog food)

I think Apple got caught in a hard place where they had to start over and get things up and running quickly to head off any lawsuits about not meeting advertised promises about “new Siri”. Their first try didn’t work in iOS 26. They were aiming for 15 to 18 months to get the API working/tested. Let’s see what happens in another year or two.

Also Apple won’t be the only one in this predicament. WhatsApp is already having the same problems with DMA.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Well, they at least rejected letting Apple release without "Trusted System Agent" and a pinky promise it would be implemented in a year and a half...

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Apple? The company who fucked with their users/customers phone batteries from afar so they would have to purchase new products? That Apple?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm constantly being told by Apple fanboys that Apple is the only pro consumer silicon valley company in operation.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

In comparison to other mega corps? More or less yes.
Individually: Nope.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago

Imagine the rest. DAMN! 😳

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