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Not a peace deal yet. Israel will do everything they can to derail it.
I don't understand the surprise, Iran has won the war, it's obvious
The surprise is that Trump admitted it.
Oh, this isn't over.
This is all grand standing to make things settle down for the UFC July 4 party. Then it will be back to killing children because something something happened. No money will be sent to Iran. Israel might slow down the genocide but only in the news.
The war isn't over, and while Iran didn't lose it, they didn't win it either, lebanon especially didn't win it.
This thing won't end, just cool down for a bit as Israel occupies lebanon and wastes people regularly while the US tries to keep Iran from honoring their commitment to their allies.
Bullshit. Deal falls apart tomorrow
Once the profit from the stock market pump is taken
Yeah but I'm waiting for them to just say the wars over refuse to continue talking about it and accuse reporters of being nasty if they ask about the obviously continuing war.
Exactly. Trump will bomb something again.
It's not over, not by a long shot, any memorandum of agreement on a framework to negotiate a ceasefire Israel style notwithstanding.
Israel isn't withdrawing from Lebanon for one thing. Who thinks they won't keep systematically wasting people and turn it into ghettos? The only question is if Iran will throw them under the bus and keep the straits open as Israel goes nazi on lebanon.
Expected shitlibbery from The Atlantic.
The Iranians cagily linked Netanyahu’s war against Hezbollah in Lebanon to Trump’s war in the Gulf
Cagily? How tf is is "cagey" to link those two together?
I'll go even further: every military action taken by the US or Israel in the MENA region, from the Gulf War to the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan to the overthrow of the Syrian and Libyan governments to Israel's invasion of Palestine, Lebanon, etc, all of it is linked as part of a consistent plan to subjugate the entire region by force.
The Israelis, for their part, have been left out in the cold.
When Netanyahu planned major strikes in Beirut at the beginning of June, Trump called him, swore at him, and said, “You’d be in prison if it weren’t for me.”
Good? Are you trying to turn me into an accelerationist?
No one should trust the Iranians...
No one should trust the Iranians? How about no one should trust the Americans, who launched this attack in the middle of negotiations?
The effort to claim that this war has defeated Iran’s nuclear ambitions is merely an effort to distract from the administration’s failure to achieve regime change, which was always its main goal.
No doubt the hawks at The Atlantic were jerking themselves off over the prospect of regime change from the moment the war started, but I don't think there was ever a clear "main goal."
Had Trump toppled the regime in Tehran, he would have had the thanks of most of the world—and congratulations from even his most dedicated critics.
Jesus fucking Christ! I wrote the previous line before I even got to this! They were, in fact, jerking off to the idea of regime change, and the only problem they have with Trump bombing schoolchildren is that he backed off! What a bunch of warmongering psychos!
Mock the old aging pedo all you want, but he did this all in your name whether you voted for him or not. It's an American humiliation as much as it is a Trump one.
It's definitely an american humilation but I don't see how people condemning him for a decade are "just as" anything as the pedophile.
I mean every paycheck he gets another 25% of our money, idk im not doing anything about it either so yeah america sucks
I'm not talking about individuals.
Yes and I'm sure your leaders are pure as the driven snow. I bet your politicians suck too, and that you will follow us to fascism, soon. They might take away your high horse.
By no means are they pure, but dude, you could drive 60 tractors, side-by-side, between our version of a bad leader and your guy.
Guess what? You already know that too.
You say that, yet your leaders are selling you out as we speak. Just because they don't say dumb shit doesn't mean they aren't instituting chatcontrol, or it's evolution, age controls on social media.
Do you even live in reality?
You are saying that from a libertarian perspective (or seem to). The Australian government's social media controls for children are very popular here as social media is very harmful to children.
You can't compare that to America bombing a girl's school and killing 174 children by your military, and in your country's name.
Just because people in Australia trust the wrong people, or less charitably are fucking stupid, doesn't mean they would support what is happening if they pulled their head out of the ass of the billionaires.
If you are American, just read your own situation before lecturing anyone else. As far as I am aware, my country is having negligible negative effects to other countries. Your country is a blight upon civilisation.
We've gone from pyrrhic victory to trumpic victory. ✌️
At least Pyrrhus did win bis battles
Vietnam was a loss but they were the first to support the board of peace. Whatever the US are doing with Iran, it can all be deception.
The new classics.
Why won't it die already?! Fucking bag of lard and literal shit.
The Orange pedo is a complete failure. Just like his MAGAt followers.
BS framing on this story. If trumps not lying, which is a big IF, its not an "iranian victory", its a victory for the planet, including for American citizens. The only losers here are fascist Israelis which pleases me to no end.
LPT: trump is lying