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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 100 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

No one provided any explantion for their vote.

USA, the country where everything's made up and the legal justifications don't matter.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 86 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Border control is literally federal jurisdiction. It's weird that they didn't just say that.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 57 points 9 months ago (6 children)

5-4 vote, I wonder what the four's reasoning was.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

Dumbass dickheads is the reason.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

Partisanship. pure and simple.

the five voted- appropriately- as the supremacy clause has already answered the question.

[–] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

"Fuck brown people", probably.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're expecting conservatives to be consistent in their reasoning?

[–] kool_newt@lemm.ee 28 points 9 months ago

They're extremely consistent in their actual reasons. It's their stated reasons that vary depending on their political needs.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just read the decision form the court below.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No one provided any explantion for their vote.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This story is about the Supreme Court's en banc decision on the application for certiorari, on appeal from the court below which I believe was the Fifth Circuit. The Fifth Circuit tossed the district court's order finding in favor of Texas. The denial of certiorari is the explanation, it means they agree with the reasoning and analysis of the Fifth Circuit. It's very rare for a denial of certiorari to have any commentary.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ohhh the lower court. "Court below" kind of threw me.

Still, the SCOTUS vote on cert was 5-4 against. Four of them voted for cert, and while that was not the thing I was initially asking about, I do wonder about why they did.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

They are partisan hacks.

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[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

The court below provided the justification when it vacated the district court's ruling. Denying certiorari as in this order is the court saying they agree with how the lower court resolved the appeal.

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Heard in news "it is inhumane" while the governments assisting Israel building a wall around gaza and commiting genocide.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 58 points 9 months ago (1 children)

From NBC:

“The brief order noted that four conservative members of the nine-justice court would have rejected the government's request. They were Justice Clarence Thomas, Justice Samuel Alito, Justice Neil Gorsuch and Justice Brett Kavanaugh.”

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is literally settled shit since the Civil War. They're trying to bring back state law supremacy. Which led to... The fucking civil war.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I say bring it. Finish it proper this time.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago (3 children)

We're almost at the point of nobody cares what the supreme court has to say.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The SCOTUS has been filled with scumbags since day one, very seriously. They literally caused the civil war and prolonged the great depression. They also gutted the 13th and 14th amendments while deciding that people are militias.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, one small edit with a huge difference. The people as a whole are the militia. No it doesn't make any sense. But when you gotta get that gun lobby money for your next private jet Caribbean vacation....

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

A People's History of the Supreme Court has good info on the terrible track record of the Supreme Court.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Sounds interesting, will check it out.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's an institution that only exists because the other two branches listen. It doesn't have an army or a police force. Even the Marshals technically operate under the Executive branch. If the Legislature and Executive branches both decided to ignore them, then Roberts could whine a bunch, but nothing would happen.

It's there because of respect built over two centuries and then some. They seem determined to throw it away.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nah the litigants can apply to lower courts for affirmative relief in compliance with the higher court's orders and the judges can issues writs of mandamus to any proper officer requiring the officer to do a thing, the failure of which is remedied by a writ of capias, which is a judicial arrest warrant. Would have to be a whole hell of a lot of local judges, cops, marshals, lawyers, clerks, administrators, etc., who would have to ignore it, before nobody ends up in jail or has their assets seized.

Yeah but if the legislative branch doesn't fund it and the executive branch doesn't enforce it, then as my granpappy always said: "a writ ain't worth a shit." Lower courts, judges, lawyers, clerks, police, Marshalls, and even administrators notwithstanding.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

We still let them decide what is and isn't legal. I wish anyone cared that much about what I say.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Well they're about to decide they get to set regulations, not agencies. So that's going to be fun and not at all a giant overreach for power.

[–] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 31 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Can we just give Texas to Mexico and redraw the border?

[–] lookorex@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Pretty sure they wouldn't want it either, at this point

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 9 months ago

Shit, if we threatened to give Texas back, Mexico may just build that wall that Trump promised they would, and pay for it!

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I propose we build a wall around the entirety of Texas and yeet it from the states. Then we can use any federal funds they were receiving to help people move in/out of Texas. They already have their own power grid, I'm sure it'll be fine.

[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

They wouldn't be able to send their illegals to other states as easily if a wall is build around them tho.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I live in Texas, and to be honest, I hear more Spanish than English when I walk around town

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Diversifying the border between 4 states?

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[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"the supreme court of heaven" based on the article thumbnail

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] hardaysknight@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

With this court? More like a nightmare sequence

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 14 points 9 months ago

Supreme court allows federal agents to cut razor wire Texas

installed on US-Mexico border

Uninstall.exe

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