Do we assume that God is (and always was) a reasonable person/being who only punishes people for good reason and in appropriate measure? Because the bible doesn't quite paint that picture to me.
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Lets say for the sake of current discussion that he is? Than we can discuss if he was not..that ok?
If you assume that god follows reason and morals, and is as described in the bible, then he's horrible and evil and is basically Satan but worse.
So there's not really any discussion.
In the biblical story, Lot believes the best way to get the residents of the city not to rape the two angels who came to visit him is to offer his virgin daughters instead, which doesn't really portray them in a particularly positive light (and doesn't really reflect well on Lot, either).
God loves a good honey pot!
If God is real then God must die.
If God is real then God doesn't love the creatures on this planet. This sentient creature created a reality filled with suffering of the highest order.
A counter argument to this is this:
We cannot understand God's plan as we aren't capable of understanding it because we aren't God.
This argument is quite stupid in my opinion. Zeus raped people. Is Zeus bad? I think we can agree that Zeus is bad. If a super advanced alien created a human zoo, put humans in it without their consent and also put in wasps whose stings make the humans want to kill themselves. Would we say that the alien is benevolent? Would we say "oooh, Mr. Alien is too advanced for us to perceive their plan, but Mr. Alien definitely loves us"? No, we would try to escape and kill that alien so that it can never harm us ever again. Why does God get special treatment then?
The Bible doesn't say and there is no consensus among Biblical scholars about what the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah were. Some believe it was simply arrogance and inhospitality.
Like, at least 5 Epstein Islands.
If they were real has no implication on the reality of any diety (or deities) let alone the Abrahamic God, Yahweh.