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Looking at TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, DSC, PIC, SNW and LD:

North America - 16
- Kirk, James Tiberius (Iowa, USA)
- McCoy, Leonard (Georgia, USA)
- Sulu, Hikaru (California, USA)
- Chapel, Christine (Ohio, USA)
- Pike, Christopher (California, USA)
- Kirk, George Samuel (Iowa, USA)
- Riker, William Thomas (Alaska, USA)
- Sisko, Benjamin (Louisiana, USA)
- Janeway, Kathryn (Indiana, USA)
- Paris, Tom (California, USA)
- Kim, Harry (South Carolina, USA)
- Archer, Jonathan (California, USA)
- Tucker, Charles III (Florida, USA)
- Forrest, Maxwell (USA)
- Culber, Hugh (Puerto Rico, USA)
- Shaw, Liam (Illinois, USA)
- Boimler, Bradward (California, USA)
South America - 2
- Rios, Cristóbal (Chile)
- Ortegas, Erica (Colombia)
Europe - 9
- Scott, Montgomery (Scotland, UK)
- Chekov, Pavel (Russia)
- April, Robert (England, UK)
- Picard, Jean-Luc (France)
- O'Brien, Miles (Ireland)
- Pulaski, Katherine (Poland)
- Reed, Malcolm (England, UK)
- Detmer, Keyla (Germany)
- Crusher, Jack (England, UK)
Africa - 4
- Uhura, Nyota (Kenya)
- M'Benga, Joseph (Kenya)
- La Forge, Geordi (Somalia)
- Owosekun, Joann (Nigeria)
Asia - 3
- O'Brien (née Ishikara), Keiko (Japan)
- Sato Hoshi (Japan)
- Georgiou, Philippa (Malaysia)
Oceania - 0
Human Colony - 10
- Crusher (née Howard), Beverly (The Moon)
- Yar, Tasha (Turkana IV)
- Data (Omicron Theta)
- Chakotay (Trebus)
- Torres, B'Elanna (Kessik IV)
- Asha, Soji (Coppelius)
- Asha, Dahj (Coppelius)
- Noonien-Singh, La'An (Alpha I)
- Ransom, Jack (The Moon)
- Billups, Andarithio (Hysperia)
Alien World - 37
- Spock (Vulcan)
- Chin-Riley, Una (Illyria)
- Arex (Edos)
- Worf (Khitomer)
- Troi, Deanna (Betazed)
- Guinan (El-Auria)
- Ro Laren (Bajor)
- Kira Nerys (Bajor)
- Odo (Omarian Nebula)
- Dax, Jadzia (Trill)
- Dax, Ezri (Trill)
- Quark (Ferenginar)
- Rom (Ferenginar)
- Garak, Elim (Cardassia Prime)
- Leeta (Bajor)
- Tuvok (Vulcan)
- Neelix (Rinax)
- Kes (Ocampa)
- T'Pol (Vulcan)
- Phlox (Denobula)
- Soval (Vulcan)
- Shran, Thy'lek (Andoria)
- Saru (Kaminar)
- Voq (Qo'noS)
- Nhan, D. (Barzan II)
- Linus (Sauria)
- Booker, Cleveland V (Kwejian)
- Rayner (Kellerun)
- Elnor (Romulus)
- Laris (Romulus)
- Hemmer (Andoria)
- Tendi, D'Vana (Orion)
- T'Lyn (Vulcan)
- Shaxs (Bajor)
- Kayshon (Sigma Tama IV)
- Migleemo, Gabers (Klowahka)
- Barnes (Trill)
Space Boomer - 8
- Rand, Janice (Earth, Various ships and stations)
- Crusher, Wesley (Earth, USS Enterprise)
- Sisko, Jake (USS Saratoga, Utopia Planitia, DS9)
- Nog (Ferenginar, DS9)
- Doctor, The (USS Voyager)
- Seven of Nine (Tendara Colony, Borg Collective, USS Voyager)
- Mayweather, Travis (ECS Horizon)
- Mariner, Beckett (Starbase 25)
Unknown - 24
- M'Ress (Unknown Caitian Homeworld)
- Barclay, Reginald (Unknown)
- Bashir, Julian (Earth, Unknown Continent)
- Yates-Sisko, Kasidy (Unknown)
- Burnham, Michael (Earth, Unknown Continent)
- Lorca, Gabriel (Unknown)
- Cornwell, Katrina (Unknown)
- Tilly, Sylvia (Earth, Unknown Continent)
- Stamets, Paul (Unknown)
- Airiam (Unknown)
- Bryce, Ronald (Unknown)
- Rhys, Gen (Unknown)
- Landry, Ellen (Unknown)
- Pollard, Tracy (Unknown)
- Reno, Jett (Unknown)
- Tal, Adira (Earth, Unknown Continent)
- Musiker, Raffaela (Earth, Unknown Continent)
- Jurati, Agnes (Unknown)
- La Forge, Sidney (Unknown)
- Pelia (Unknown Lanthanite Homeworld)
- Rutherford, Samanthan (Unknown)
- Freeman, Carol (Unknown)
- T'Ana (Unknown Caitian Homeworld)
- Sh'reyan, Jennifer (Unknown)

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[–] Carcel@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sulu was from San Francisco, not Japan. In Star Trek IV when they're approaching San Francisco in the bird of prey he says he was born there.

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 10 points 2 days ago

Well that's embarrassing! OK, updated. Thanks.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.cafe 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Somalia? La Forge don't look Somali, and certainly ain't got no Somali name.

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I dunno where his parents were from, but he was born in Mogadishu.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, so let's say French diplomats' kid.

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe? I honestly have no idea how intercontinental politics work in Star Trek but having diplomats between Earth nations by the time of the Federation seems as redundant as having diplomats between US states now.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I think we might be a slightly better place if we had state diplomats. Imagine if someone like Tom Walz occasionally went on a hunting/fishing trip with any of the red state governors. It may go like when Mamdani visited the white house. It's hard to hate like these people do yelling into the ether when the person is right there.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

You know some people say Modesto is like the moon of uh, San Francisco

[–] Deebster@infosec.pub 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's one of the reasons why I hated the Enterprise theme - it clearly said this is a show by Americans for Americans. The rest of us are welcome to watch, but we don't matter.

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Any reason to hate on that stupid song i'll gladly take.

[–] s@piefed.world 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Oceania and South America were lost in WWIII

[–] hypeerror@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My family was from Buenos Aires and I say Kill 'em all!

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 16 hours ago

Would you like to know more?

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 11 points 2 days ago

It is a testament to... something, I guess... that I honestly can't tell if you're joking.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Same reason why Jean-Luc Picard doesn't have a French accent.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Beta canon has Detmer being from Germany

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Interesting! I'll take it

[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When I was a kid watching TOS reruns, it felt like the whole world was represented on the bridge of the Enterprise. As I got older and newer series came out, it felt more like Americans In Space, so I tuned out of everything post DS9.

Would love to watch a truly global, optimistic sci-fi series or movie.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I mean, Star Trek was always targeted at a US audience, even and especially TOS.

I don't know many other places where viewers could relate much to a reading of the Constitution of the United States.

I've really come to despise the US's dominance to quasi-monopoly on movie and TV entertainment in western cultures. I want to see other perspectives, different cultural influences.

[–] isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

And it goes well beyond specific references. The entire setting of Star Trek is really an outgrowth/projection of American post-WW2 optimism. The original Star Trek was created by the generation of people that fought WW2 and built the United Nations. Roddenberry himself was a pilot during WW2 in what would become the US Air Force.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’ve really come to despise the US’s dominance to quasi-monopoly on movie and TV entertainment in western cultures.

Aside from Bollywood I don't know if any other countries out as much money into movies and shows as the US does. You'll have the occasional sleeper hits that'll come out but there isn't as big of a market here for international medi.

[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

We do have the Filmförderung in Germany giving out government subsidies for movie productions, but the execution and distribution is ass. For example, almost every Hollywood movie with some scenes shot in Germany is partially financed by this programme just to get them to shoot here.

[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

100%. I'm tired of the anglosphere in general. I'd rather see something else, even if it's not as well funded.

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Lupin (on Netflix, starring Omar Sy) is a pretty good French-language series.

There's also, obviously, the entire medium of anime, which is largely Japanese (with some Korean).

[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Thanks, will check out Lupin!

[–] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Orville is as close as we get to hopefully, optimistic or aspirational SciFi. Everything is dark, horror stories of the future.

[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah true, but it’s still all-American. I only saw season one, though.

[–] _NetNomad@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they tried to get people from Oceana but between Farscape and the Star Wars prequels there weren't any actors left. the latter had 6.2 million characters portrayed by someone from New Zealand

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Don't forget the other dude that also took all the horses.

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

(I might finish the list later)

EDIT: Finished (live action, anyway). It really stands out, now, how little Discovery cared about the backstories for its command crew outside of one or two writer's faves.

EDIT 2: Damn it, I forgot the Picard series. (I might finish the list later)

EDIT 3: TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, DSC, PIC, SNW and LD all done. Have had to go to Memory Beta for some of these. I understand that there are also shows called Prodigy and Starfleet Academy but I've never watched them.

[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 17 hours ago

Discovery was a very different format from the earlier series. If you're watching 90s Trek, you've got 20 some odd episodes per season and most of them are designed to be watched one at a time. That's a lot of time to fill in backstory details and meet different characters. Compare that to much shorter seasons with a more contemporary focus on a central plot and you just don't really have the run time to spare.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I always found it slightly weird that the president of Starfleet, stationed in San Francisco, wasn't a human at all.

[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Starfleet, or the Federation?

The headquarters of the United Federation of Planets is on earth because it was founded there, but the presidency is open to candidates from any member world.

Which makes sense given the whole point of the federation is unity.

The head of Starfleet is whoever the top Admiral is at the time.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The heads of Starfleet are in San Francisco because thats the HQ.

The president of the United Federation of Planets in the capital in Paris. But the UFP president not always being human does show that just because the capital is on Earth it doesn't automatically mean the president has to be a human.

[–] SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is this just where they were born, or else Jake Sisko and even Wesley Crusher should count as Boomers

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Jake's tricky because he was born on Earth, but if he moved around with Benjamin then he lived in space too, on various ships and DS9, but also Mars (Utopia Planitia shipyards) and even Romulus (Sisko had an embassy posting for a while). If I list Jake and Wesley as Boomers I might have to put Nog down for that too. Also, I'm not sure WHAT Wesley's deal was; if he had been moved around with Beverly and/or Jack Sr, then Picard would already have met him before TNG.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Picard did meet Wesley before TNG. Wesley was there when Picard came to break the news to Beverly Crusher about Jack Crusher's death.

[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Chakotay is from Central America or at least his ancestors

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 8 points 2 days ago

Everybody's from everywhere if you count ancestors

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The implication is that the USA eventually takes over South America, right?

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Or maybe they got got by the Xindi

PS: after going through all the live-action shows, I finally found one in SNW: Erica Ortegas is from Colombia. Now the only continents with no main-character representation are Oceania and Antarctica, and Antarctica doesn't really count.

[–] Dunstabzugshaubitze@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago

Antarctica doesn't really count.

There is nothing in the rules stating that a Pinguin can't be Captain of a Starfleet vessel!