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[–] SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml 17 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If the phone's security prevents them from accessing information, then they have no information. How can they prove there was any information on it to begin with?

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They just accuse you of withholding evidence. Yay for freedom of speech.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

@SupremeDonut@lemmy.ml the courts already decided that it was okay to jail people for literal years for not providing a password: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Rawls

and there are more:

  • United States v. Fricosu
  • United States v. Doe (2012)
  • United States v. Kirschner
[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 14 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Funny how the lemmy liberals never believe that the US is the authoritarian country lol

[–] stochasticity@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Really? I feel like I'm constantly seeing complaints about the US's growing authoritarianism.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 5 points 7 hours ago

I mean from the cadre of Anti-russia, Anti-china accounts who try and tell me I am a conspiracy theorist for thinking that the CIA is behind "all world events" despite talking about a specific event where the CIA actually overthrew the country I am from.

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They didnt grow to it. Nobody just gave a shit before, because it wasnt against all skin colors.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

It's not even about skin color, not really. It's about poverty and people not having a chance to get out of it. I would also commit crimes if I felt my life had no future and im white.

As a consequence, black people commit crimes and white cops become racist because they see that. But its not really about skin color if you look at the full picture.

[–] pelican476@discuss.online 1 points 5 hours ago

I think this is misguided and a bit too optimistic. Racist cops don't become racist because of their lived experiences, they're already racist when they take the job.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online -1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Oh yeah racism in the US is not about skin color, brilliant take.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

It's about poverty, yeah. White people would act the same as black people if they lived in poverty. In fact, you see that happening in America too.

You have to give someone a chance in life or you end up with desperate people. I never understood the idea that poor people should just say no to crime when they have absolutely nothing to live for otherwise. That's crazy.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online -4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

If you don't think racism is real and not at all based on race you are a literal fucking idiot. Try reading a fucking book whitey. Fanon, George Jackson, Malcom X. Take you pick, not sure you'll have the comprehension to understand.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I think I may be more intelligent then you actually... :)

Anyway, see you around.

[–] pelican476@discuss.online -1 points 5 hours ago

I think you're probably equally intelligent unfortunately

[–] shadowtofu@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

You have to carry a piece of paper in your wallet that contains a PIN. The piece of paper contains no further information, just a PIN. You decline to answer any questions regarding this piece of paper or your phone’s PIN.

This might not be a good idea, depending on your jurisdiction.

[–] utjebe@reddthat.com 13 points 1 day ago

Or just set it to your mmddyy or something typical for weak passwords

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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 97 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Name one thing that can't land you in prison in the US. I'll wait.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 72 points 1 day ago (2 children)

pedophilia (if you are rich)

[–] DragonOracleIX@lemmy.ml 4 points 12 hours ago

You don't even need that first part. Being rich makes it 10x harder for you to be prosecuted.

[–] AmyAye@nord.pub 105 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Indirectly murdering hundreds of thousands of people in pursuit of profits.

[–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And manslaughter with a car.

[–] ReignOfTerror@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

That's an instant death sentence if the person you're running over is an ICE agent, however.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 day ago

With the caveat that, if you don't achieve those profits, it will land you in jail.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Got me there

[–] WitchKnight@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago

For profit slave labor prisons are very lucrative I hear

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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

And that person is the officer that destroyed the evidence

[–] tlekiteki@lemmy.dbzer0.com 94 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Supreme court has ruled that warrantless phone search at the border is bogus, but theyre too shitpantsed to stick with it

[–] SunDevil@lemmy.ml 6 points 20 hours ago

Not if you live within the jurisdiction of the 4th Circuit. The court "ruled that a lower standard applies to manual searches, allowing the government to conduct extraordinarily invasive electronic device searches without any suspicion of wrongdoing, simply because the border officer chooses to search by hand rather than with a forensic tool."

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/07/fourth-circuit-says-border-agents-can-search-your-phone-hand-no-suspicion-required

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago

they are evil and hypocritical is what they are.

they want to make an example out of people trying to escape the panopticon.

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[–] Sir_Gkar@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Seems like what's needed is the ability to load an alternate profile or some kind of demo mode based on the pin. Something that looks normal but doesn't have any info you don't want others to see, without actually deleting anything.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 hours ago

Nothing is needed. Erase your shit before you travel in or out of the US.

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

You can already have multiple independent users in graphene (maybe in stock android too idk). You have to switch them before the possible search though.

[–] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had this feature on a Xiaomi phone that i had a few years ago. I could even set up the fingerprint reader to open a different profile depending on which finger i used.

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[–] steelplatedmech@piefed.ca 35 points 1 day ago

Or loads a dummy profile and deletes other profiles without giving away what is happening.

[–] GMac@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago

Dont think that would be as secure. Once a phone has been unlocked after reboot, even if it has been locked again, the operating system and ram can be accessed quite easily with the correct tools and border controls have those tools.

Even a Graphene phone is only properly secure before first unlock after reboot. So i would not personally rely on allowing acess to any profile. I would assume its possible, (probably trivial) to gain complete access from there.

Any duress pin use should be covered under a person's right to avoid self incrimination.

If the phone is owned by your employer and they are the investigation target, then you might be on dodgy ground.

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[–] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 day ago

this is what peak democracy™ looks like, dont be fooled

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