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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 points 43 minutes ago

I'm still on windows 7.

[–] krisevol@lemmus.org 1 points 24 minutes ago

The have done this every window release.

[–] Tango@piefed.ca 14 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Too late. I've already switched to Linux Mint and am never going back.

[–] SamB@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

Same, almost a year and couldn’t be happier.

[–] leriotdelac@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

Very nice! I need Windows unfortunately for software, but when I get a new machine for professional stuff, my old one defs goes Mint:) Just needed more buffer time to save money!

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 hours ago

I'm just sitting here patiently waiting for the end of the world staring at these corporations, Microsoft and Meta especially, just make company ending mistake after company ending mistake, for over a decade now. I really don't believe companies able to absorb that kind of incompetence should exist.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Vista 2: Electric Boogaloo

[–] timeghost@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

Windows 11 can be wrangled into something decent, but it requires an immense amount of wrangling on initial install to do so.

As an example, XP needed 8-12hrs worth of work before I was happy with the way I had it configured. Win11 needs about 32-48hrs of work and testing. Some bits - like violently bludgeoning File Explorer back into a halfway XP-like folder tree - takes deep, repeated dives into the registry to properly and permanently eviscerate things like the Library and Home (quick access).

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

More than XP 🤣 I think Linux is better for everyone

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Is there a way to not require a Microsoft account? That's why I haven't upgraded.

[–] feddylemmy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes,

  • disconnect internet on install
  • install and get to the initial setup screen (out of box experience screen where you setup keyboard, etc)
  • press shift+f10 to get console
  • run "OOBE/BYPASSNRO"

It will reboot and bring you back to that same initial setup but when you get to the account page you will have an option for "I don't have internet" which then will allow you to create a local account.

They were going to remove this but haven't yet, at least the last time I setup a VM for some windows only software about a month ago.

Edit: This was a fresh install, not a 10->11 upgrade. I haven't tried that way so I can't confirm if it works on a keep everything upgrade.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

RUFUS is a lot simpler.

And upgrades keep all settings, including local accounts. They always have.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

Build your USB installer using RUFUS.

The SELECT drop-down (the down arrow itself, not the entire button) even downloads a generic multi-version of the latest Win11.

It’s at the last step before creating the installer when RUFUS gives you a bunch of settings that you can leverage, one of which is a Microsoft Account bypass so you can create a local account.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Fedora workstation with KDE.

Took like 10 minutes dude.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I still run a small constellation of programs (some obscure) that are required for my workflows that have neither a Linux version that is perfectly file-compatible, nor can be run reliably under WINE.

Plus, I also provide tech support for others, so being able to “mirror” actions on my own iron as I’m helping them is a massive plus. Differences between installs has helped me catch config issues on many occasions.

So unfortunately, running Windows is still a must-do for the foreseeable future. Now granted, I also have a good half-dozen workstations, which also run MacOS, OpenBSD, OpenSUSE, and various other virtualized fun shit (HaikuOS, etc.).

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I love Linux. I really do. I would say 99.9% of all services I self-host are things I run on Linux. And the other 0.1% I’m actively looking for a way to run on Linux or just don’t run at all. But as a desktop, there are things that I just can do as well or at all on Linux. And most of that are drivers or utilities that just either ignore Linux or half-ass it. Which is not Linux’s fault, but it is what it is.

An example: I have a laser cutter in my shop. I use Lightburn. They essentially have stopped all development on the Linux version years ago. So I have an old Macmini running the Mac version (I despise windows with the passion of 1000 suns). So no Linux there. I haven’t looked for a decent Linux version so something might exist. But what I have works and I have other more fun things to try.

But Linux on the desktop can have advantages. At work, the desktop management shit is really getting annoying and increasingly affects my Mac desktop. I don’t need some central office making choices on my desktop/laptop when I know more than most of them. Not to mention I do weird things with networking for my lab that is so outside of normal, I guarantee they have never even considered. Case in point, they were forcing reboots to upgrade the day of any OS update. Even dot 0 releases. I’m like WTAF. I got them to allow a week which is better I guess. They haven’t figured at how to force that on Linux yet so there is a reason to move to Linux for sure. But this advantage for Linux is basically due to the same thing. Linux is ignored on the desktop.

[–] HrMoon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You have to do the essentials on Linux. You have to fight for it. The more people turn on Linux and bitch about stuff not working, the more likely companies/people will start building drivers for it. It’s a fight, no shame if it doesn’t work, just use other operating system to get it working but spit on it while doing it

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

You’re not wrong. And we have several people in my group especially since most of us are geeks and technical, that are running Linux as a desktop.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Linux can be made to do those things too. That’s a management issue. Head office is dumb and doesn’t know what they are doing and they make that your problem.

As for the CNC, aren’t those all some variation of GRBL anyway? I feel like there’s a major disruption opportunity for retrofitting a more standard control system onto existing CNC machines. Something supported by Linux/bsd/temple/whatever. The CNC machines are technological anchors for any shop and honestly they don’t need to be. They aren’t as complex as people think.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I know. Just don’t tell central IT. Plus the few number of Linux desktops is also reasonable n to not bother. And anybody running Linux as a desktop has way more of a clue than some admin running windows 11.

It’s not the GRBL that’s the issue. It’s the turning things into GRBL that’s the issue. Like I said they probably exist. It’s just a matter of being lazy and not fixing something that already works. If it was windows only, I’d be more inclined.

[–] ContactClosure@lemmus.org 12 points 6 hours ago

Ha! Suck it, every computer tech that told me I had to move to 11.

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