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[–] eleijeep@piefed.social 28 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

This is manufactured scarcity. Do not believe their lies.

If we had antitrust enforcement, these companies would be broken up or fined into oblivion.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 hours ago

It's not manufactured scarcity, it's just scarcity that the market can't (or won't risk) reacting to quickly.

It costs hundreds of billions and multiple years to build out the capacity to make these chips at scale, and decades to earn back that investment on each plant. If the companies think it's going to be a short term thing, they won't build enough new plants because that would risk being over-supplied and not being able to recoup the investment. If they think it's going to be a long term thing, they will start building. They are clearly building some new capacity, so they must think it's not entirely a short term thing. However, they won't build as much as possible, because that risks oversupplying if too much gets built and the demand shifts.

LLMs could shift to an entirely new tech that doesn't rely on these chips in 5 years, and then they'd be fucked.

All it takes is one crazy ass dude or dudette to build out a more efficient biological processor or something and then we're all going to be growing AI brains in jars to do our work for us.

[–] sbbq@lemmy.zip 10 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, they're not eBay scalpers. The cost to make a product doesn't go up because more people want it. This is straight up cartel behavior and a sane government wouldn't allow it.

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 18 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

It's possible I will never be able to afford another gaming PC again. Even when the AI bubble pops, we are never returning to normal prices. Prices will come down, but now the price increase is baked in. Just like when COVID hit and we never saw prices for almost anything return to precovid levels.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Honestly, as a silver lining, this is likely to finally make studios pull back from graphics being the end all be all, and instead focus a bit more on art styles that run well on weaker hardware.

The endless pursuit of graphics has had drastically diminishing returns since the PS3, it's about time the industry focused on optimization and doing more with less for once.

It'll let our hardware stay relevant, and it's better for the environment if we make it last as long as possible anyway :)

Down with consumption, and bring on the age of Permacomputing, I say!

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

cut the doomerism, Chinese chipsets are half the price of american ones, just be patent my friend, the silk road will deliver....

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm sure those companies won't want to maximize profit either.

[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

Considering china's game plan is consistently to undercut everything, yah.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Learn to use ebay and enjoy the used discounts, dude. It's such a refresher.

There will always be businesses liquidating inventory, cryptominers dumping their cards, and average joes hoping that they can sell their old PC rather than recycling it. It sucks that most of the stuff will not be new, yeah, but you can still get powerful hardware at an affordable price.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

And what about large storage drives?

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 hours ago

Yeah those are way too risky unless you're making some mirrors. Best go for used then

[–] yuri@pawb.social 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

bc-250 builds are pretty cool!

tech hobbyists are unkillable as cockroaches. if we all get priced out of new parts, we’ll build our computers with e-waste.

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

I literally got my first computer from the dump. Technically illegal salvage...

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 1 points 9 hours ago

It is ok. No one is going to make games for a gaming PC anyway.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 44 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Can the fucking AI bubble pop already?

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 5 hours ago

if its like a boil, then not yet, it will grow into carbuncle/furuncle before it burst, and not before it spreads first.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 42 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No, Elon still wants to generate pictures of naked kids.

[–] lemmyng@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Literally suing a state over his "right" to do so.

fElonia is a pedophile.

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

Unfortunately signs point to "no"

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 18 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Not just GPUs. I needed a new laptop for work, and prices definitely going up there too.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago

Yeah and also not just PC/PC components either. Anything that's electronic, uses copper, uses a PCB, all of it's being sucked up by AI and driving prices of everything up.

[–] Zizzy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

I mean you're right but for the wrong reasons lol. A laptop contains a gpu, too still. But other components are up also, especially ram and storage.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago

Integrated graphics is not the same as a dedicated GPU.

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago

You're technically correct, but my integrated graphics don't exactly rival a dedicated GPU..

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.ca 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Could? The 5090 is already nearly $6000CAD (before tax) here.

Adding tax + price bump would put it at nearly $8000CAD. I'd imagine no retailer is even going to stock them because it would be a waste of their time and money because nobody would ever pay that much.

[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

Unfortunately it's a good card for local AI use so people do actually prefer that card and are buying a lot of them. If they're running a business with it they'll keep buying... :(

I started playing around with local AI just for fun running off my 5080 and in learning about it like 26362826472985 YouTube videos are just business hustle bros spouting off about their fully AI run Instagram hustle or whatever...

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Bro I think even pc133 sdram has skyrocketed 😅I just wanna upgrade my g4 to 1.5 GB man.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

I was able to get 16GB of DDR3 SODIMM for $50 recently, so old laptops are still affordable to upgrade at least… 🥴

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Well...

They got busted fixing RAM prices, so obviously they have to price fix another product to make up for it.

[–] lolrightythen@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Its not fixed if we keep raising it!

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

All this stuff just isn't for us anymore.

[–] BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

So true. I'm never getting a new high end GPU again. They're like 10k it's impossible now