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[–] pasdechance@jlai.lu 26 points 3 hours ago (4 children)

I think this is a tough one to weigh in on depending where you come from. If I lived somewhere where the news talked about school shootings a lot, I might want my child to have a phone.

Go after the companies making addictive applications instead.

[–] LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 minutes ago

Just make them leave it off. Anyone caught using a phone gets it taken away the rest of the day.

That's what we did with anything that was distracting when I was growing up. You can have it on you, but if they see you using it. It goes into the principal's office until EOD.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 1 hour ago

How would it help for children to have phones during a school shooting? Everyone on the staff already has one.

[–] lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

When I was a kid in school, you had to go to the office to use the phone.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

Go after the companies

Sir this is a Merica.

[–] lemmygarden@lemmy.today 17 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Angular@crazypeople.online 3 points 1 hour ago
[–] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The logic is stupid. There are adults that are just as addicted to social media and the Internet as much as any kid would be. What changes once they reach 18?

more ranting
The real issue isn't being tackled or solved. This is yet another thing where we're trying to solve the symptom but not the cause. The real issue is that the software or the platforms don't take into consideration, by design, the well-being of the user.

We're being forced to do what these stupid corporations like Meta, Google, Reddit, OpenAI et al aren't doing already but should actually be doing. They don't give AF because their whole objective is to make sure you are addicted and they can then harvest your data, feed you scams, etc.

This is pretty much like how the big corporations push the blame on the consumer for wasting plastic even though it's the fucking corps choosing to sell their products that way in the fist place.

If software was designed with a kill-switch that could enforce better habits, this all wouldn't be necessary. All we're doing is delaying the inevitable and forcing them to seek alternatives that will be abused in the same manor social media or the Internet would be.

Why the fuck do they still sell cigarettes despite everybody knowing full well that it causes severe health issues?!

Can't make this shit up!!!

P.S. - If the schools wish to put in place this kind of ban, then they have the authority to do so. Fine. That doesn't fix the broken education system. Yes, it is broken.

[–] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 3 points 29 minutes ago

I mean, I would vastly prefer your solution, but it's much more difficult to step in and police every social media company such that they aren't working against the user. This is basically a band aid, but a band aid is better than nothing imo

[–] iN8sWoRLd@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

as a parent, I would say what matters is geo-location and text to coordinate pick-up or plans. there is no need for younger kids to have a full fledged phone if one could be developed that serves those functions. I'm thinking 90s flip phones with GPS. It really sounds like a gold mine for some company to supply these limited devices given the market for them.

[–] proudblond@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Someone is downvoting everything but I agree. I try and keep my helicopter parent impulses under control, but it is nice to know exactly where my kids are. My son (12) has a locked down old iPhone and Apple makes it pretty easy to make it practically a dumb phone. We literally have it set up so that he has to ask for permission before using any apps, with the exception of calling and messaging. (Even messaging is iffy; we want to be able to text him but it opens up texting with friends.) He doesn’t need it at school so he doesn’t bring it, but as he gets older, I’m sure it’ll start to go with him and I’m not upset about it. If he wants to go somewhere with a friend right after school instead of going straight home, it’s fine with me as long as I know about it. Without a phone, it’d be hard for him to make such plans on the fly, and let’s just say that planning ahead isn’t my ADHD-kid’s strong suit (yet—we’re working on it). As long as the expectation is set that he doesn’t use it during school, I think that’s okay; it can just live in his backpack until school is over.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 1 hour ago

Someone is downvoting everything

Indeed - three top level posts got downvotes from the same two accounts (with the second likely being an alt) within a minute.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There are options for that. Like Gabb phones and such. No Internet or social media mostly just talk, text, and geolocation.

[–] iN8sWoRLd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I'm completely ignorant of "Gabb" phones. I'll have to investigate. Also, I should probably add that while I'm a parent my kids are now grown so my opinions on this are dated. They all have full fledged smartphones at this point... and jobs... and lives. LOL

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Illinois just banned phones in school. Idk if that's leave in lockers or out of class.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 2 points 56 minutes ago

Leave in lockers. The law says teachers can confiscate them for class if out and then give them back at the end of class.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I agree. Leave them at home. The safety argument is bullshit.

[–] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Nope. As a dad I want to be able to reach my kid when need to and I want her to be able to do the same

[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 4 points 54 minutes ago

Call the school

[–] MichaelScotch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That’s been possible since way before cell phones were invented. Call the school and have them give your kid a message. School children on their phones all day long is why your kids can’t read, do math, or pay attention to anything longer than 5 minutes. Also, cyber bullying and negative social media influences are brutal and are contributing to rising suicidal ideation and attempts.

[–] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is my kid on her phone more than I'd like? Yes. But she's a straight A student. Doesn't change the fact I want us to be able to contact each other should an emergency arise

[–] droans@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

You can. You call the school. That's what people did before schools started allowing phones everywhere.

If there is an emergency, you'll need to call them anyway. No school is just gonna let your kid leave because the kid says it's okay.

Sincerely, a fellow dad

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 2 hours ago

There are “no internet” phones that are just talk and geolocation and nothing else.