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The rust programming language is adopting a new contributing policy (blog.rust-lang.org)

submitted 2 days ago by sanitation@lemmy.today to c/programming@programming.dev

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[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 14 hours ago

Seems like a good policy. Especially if they're bottlenecked on review, which most large open source projects are.

[–] terabyterex@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (2 children)

as someone who uses ai to help on researching an issue/question - i have no understanding whyvpeople just submit generated code. i realize i just dont use it to generate stuff. i use it to find stuff.

when this forst came out, i thought non devs would use it for creating an app that they use at home just for them. but no, i constantly see people posting about their project and trying to getvpeople involved. a project fully generated by an llm. or as in the issue here, generating code to be merged into a project..why? i jist dont get it.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think it's very hard to understand. It reduces the up-front cost of development.

[–] spartanatreyu@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To be more specific, it trades up-front development cost and building competence for knowledge gaps and maintenance hell.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not always. Prototyping can be valuable in many circumstances when you don't know the shape you'd like the code to take. Sometimes you need to try something before you know if it's right. I'd rather throw away prototype code written by an LLM than code I had to write the hard way.

[+] dgriffith@aussie.zone -18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Ok it occurs to me that people use this like they use a spellinng/grammar checker in a word processor.

Spellcheck:

They have an idea.
They type up the idea.
They run spellcheck and it churns through their document and it fixes mistakes that it can see.
They send it to someone for review.

LLM coding:

They have an idea.
They type up the idea.
LLM churns on the idea and spits out a solution-of-sorts.
They send it to someone for review.

Regardless of other opinions of it, they see it as a tool that helps take the effort out of getting ideas into reality.

Edit: Oh wait, this is c/programming. Fuck. Ok, give me 5 minutes for me to sharpen my pitchfork and come up with something that matches the groupthink, I'll be right back.

[–] spectrums_coherence@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Asking LLM to turn "idea" (instead of detailed spec) into a gigantic codebase is like asking your spell checker to write your essays.

[–] StrikeForceZero@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

You missed the part where they are SUPPOSED to meticulously review the "solution" themselves and have deep foundational understanding of what's going on to know if it's a good solution or not.

Ideas are a dime a dozen. It's not useful when the person lacks the ability to fully vet the solution before passing someone else to review. That just makes them middlemen. When instead the actual maintainer or reviewer could have done the same thing but have that foundational understanding.

[–] vathecka@lemmy.radio 7 points 1 day ago

Back to linkedin corpo boy

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 1 day ago

Not all of us are doggedly against LLM, it's just the LLM-haters that are preponderantly loud. They are like the anti-feminists that have to show up in every post about women.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago

Harassment is not allowed. You may not harass people for using an LLM, regardless of whether or not their use is banned by the policy. You must follow the Code of Conduct at all times when interacting with the Rust project.

Lol, I think that will be as lost on the LLM haters as the contributing policy will be lost on LLM-only users.