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There is no date of arrival for the motorola yet. I only read beginning of 2027. That could also be delayed. And if it is a phone with underwhelming specs, I wouldn't want to buy it either. But buying a pixel now means not buying a motorola soon.

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[–] Melobol@lemmy.ml 34 points 6 days ago

I'm hopeful. I want my next phone without Google or Samsung - and I really hope Motorola will deliver their promises.
And also that the upcoming phone have to have an extendable storage for me to buy. It is my main principle - unfortunately I had to give up on headphone jacks...

[–] modem_down@thebrainbin.org 28 points 6 days ago (4 children)

If you want GrapheneOS without funding Google, why not get a secondhand Pixel?

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This is what I did but you do need to be careful with it - in the US ar least you can't unlock the bootloader on a Verizon-issued pixel which are very common. Always ask the seller where they got it from, since most wouldn't be technical enough to check the bootloader for you

[–] alkaliv2@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

This is very important and deserves its own post. Resellers typically either don't specify or don't know if the bootloader is unlockable on a Pixel so the buyer has to find out for themselves. Sadly "Unlocked" in an eBay post often refers to the carrier rather than the bootloader. Thanks for mentioning this!

[–] wyrmkeeper@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Yep I made this mistake but luckily was able to return the phone via backmarket. Was more educated the second buy and am happy with the phone.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

you're still supporting google if you still do this via resale value.

and that's why i'm waiting for motorola

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago

How many GOS users are out there, you think? They have zero impact on the resale value.

[–] modem_down@thebrainbin.org 2 points 5 days ago

How does resale value “support Google”?

[–] pmk@piefed.ca 2 points 6 days ago

I've had to accept that I'm too careless to have expensive phones, and I don't need new hardware, so I'm staying at the oldest supported pixel and upgrading in that area second-hand. Currently I have a pixel 6a (with a cracked screen...), but might move to a pixel 8 next year. Somehow I wish I could support Fairphone, but I keep reading things like people having issues with it and I want my phone to "just work", and graphene has been great for that.

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[–] TrollAccount69@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago

If you understand what graphene is for and you need that then you wont wait.

Even if you don’t understand what graphene is for or if you need it and are trying to make a decision: graphene on new and used pixel phones works as expected now. It has been tested and proven against many different intelligence and surveillance apparatus. Motorolas new phone may not come out at all (it’s more likely than you might think!), may not end up supporting graphene (or graphene may not end up supporting it!) or it may have serious flaws that need to be addressed (it is a new hardware platform after all!).

If you need it now don’t wait.

[–] SunDevil@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago

Buy it now if you're ready to make the switch. That timeline sounds a bit optimistic. Last I heard Motorola had confirmed they're working with GOS on bringing a phone to market, but no release date has been announced, unless I'm mistaken.

It's a great OS. IMO, it works better than most OEM Android OS's, aside from a handful of quirks and a few app issues. I get that buying a Pixel seems antithetical, but it's really just a hardware "shell" for GrapheneOS.

Even if the Motorola GOS phones arrive as soon as you hope, keep in mind it's an initial launch. It may not be as smooth or stable as the current Pixel GOS experience.

[–] mrnngglry@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago

Unless I needed a replacement now, I would wait. It’ll be the first phone designed with GOS in mind but also Motorola’s recent track record isn’t amazing. I’m also hoping they have multiple phones supporting GOS. If initial reviews aren’t great, then refurbished Pixel it is.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 12 points 6 days ago (3 children)

FWIW, am using a pixel 7 pro, and don't feel any need for higher specs. Though I'm not doing any kind of demanding gaming.

[–] Danitos@reddthat.com 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Same here on a 7A, which is slower than the pro version. Although OP should know that the 7 series is stopping support in 1-2 years: https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

7a user here. I think the device is getting slower and I have very minimal apps installed almost none aftermarket. Only 2 extra profiles set to run only when active. Minimal background usage and still its slowish. The battery is decent still so long as it's used like a phone and not browsing much or on dimmer brightness. It's ok.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

I think ram and cpu are the same on 7,7a, and 7pro. It's just camera, battery, screen, and misc that differ I think.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 5 days ago

You're not missing anything whatsoever. I got a great deal on a lightly used Pixel 10 Pro and other than the telephoto camera lens (which is admittedly nice) there is literally no functional difference I notice day to day from my previous Pixel 7 (not pro).

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[–] custom_username@reddthat.com 11 points 6 days ago

Aside from how the phones actually compare, I think it'd be good to show there is a market for a factory graphene phone. I want companies to see the difference (financially) when they start taking privacy and other pro consumer ideas seriously.

[–] RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

Swappa.com for a cheap ass used pixel...typed from my cheap ass pixel with GrapheneOS

[–] dragospirvu75@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

I will wait for Motorola.

[–] monovergent@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago

If I just learned of GOS now and didn't have a Pixel, I would buy an unlocked unit cheap and used now. Motorola have gone quiet about their GOS phone in the months since the announcement. If it ends up flagship-priced, I'd have to settle for a used Pixel anyway.

But since I have a Pixel with GOS that is perfectly usable already, I'm holding out to see what Motorola comes up with. Either way, not too worried about specs since I don't use my phone that much. Would be nice to have SD card, headphone jack (bonus ease of security points over Bluetooth and dongles), and replaceable battery, but have also learned to (begrudgingly) tolerate phones without those.

[–] TotalSonic@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Neither. Either get a used Pixel supported by Graphene on the second hand marketplaces, or flash whatever other device you have already with a degoogled AOSP ROM (e.g. crDroid, Lineage, /e/, Iode), or alternative mobile OS (Ubuntu Touch, Sailfish, Droidian, Mobian, Plasma Mobilrle, PostMarketOS) that is compatible with it.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Same situation (current phone is dying) so I'll be watching this thread as well, sorry I cant contribute with an answer

I'm thinking of waiting for the actual specs of the Motorolla to make a decision, I don't want to give Google my money so a refubished Pixel is my other option

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Dont buy a pixel new. 11 pro is underwhelming anyway, weak af

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

What specs do you need? The cheapest GrapheneOS compatible phone you can get for before the Motorola release is a Pixel 6a, or 7/7 Pro if you need better specs. I use a Pixel 6 Pro and the specs are fine if it weren't losing support in October. If you want more longetivy get a Pixel 8.

[–] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'll on the opposite side: will the Moto GOS be more affordable than a Pixel one? It seems they'll go the way of the Signature and beyond

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 6 points 6 days ago

It all depends on how badly you need a new phone. My current Pixel is perfectly serviceable, so I have no problem waiting to see what Motorola eventually has to offer. My current phone will almost certainly suffice until then.

With that said, if my current phone was actually broken or whatever, I would probably buy a cheap/old/used Pixel to tide me over until the Motorola reveal.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 days ago

If you have an ok phone now, there's no need for a new one unless it's interesting. I'd wait to see about the moto graphene phone. I'm quite happy with low end moto hardware (G series) but they will probably screw up and make the graphene phone a flagship, as someone mentioned.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (5 children)

The 10 pro still has graphene support. It'll be on sale here in a little while because the pro 11 is launching (same with their other variants, I think). Unless we get a for sure launch date for the graphene moto phones, I'd pull the trigger on a new pixel.

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[–] anzo@programming.dev 6 points 6 days ago

I am precisely doing that since my xiaomi drowned last month. Got myself a spare/ secondary phone that happens to be my primary at the moment. It has another feature I wanted to try: an eink screen, black and white, easy on my eyes (model: bigme hibreak).

I am happy with my decision :) it's like a digital detox in its own way... Most of my app consumption was text > sound >> video, and the latter doesn't look bad at all anyway, so... here we are. Only some content received via Whatsapp but I use the web version at my pc most of the day (e.g. videos of my family or photos from friends)

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Honestly however releases a flip phone on which I can install GOS

[–] blight@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm waiting. Not only because I'd rather use Motorola over Google, but also because I want to wait and see how the EU ID apps will work on GrapheneOS. If it won't work on GOS (which seems quite likely as of today), then I will ditch the phone as a social medium entirely and only use it for ID, banking apps and other proprietary garbage society forces upon me. I'd relegate my social life to a portable laptop or something, on which I have a far greater control of the software.

[–] roundabout@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago

Refuse it, ask for a chip card-based solution, which is very feasible. EU will require banks not to ask for smartphones with the PSR.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 6 days ago

It's nice to have some other choices but, given all the current legislation suddenly appearing about requiring vendors to identify users, I think there's a good chance Motorola is rethinking this decision.

[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago

wait like a month and the pixel price will go down to like 600 dollars. that's what I did for my pixel 10.

[–] Yarny@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I just got a used pixel late last year and have been using that.

[–] ResistingArrest@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Is the pixel actually worth buying? I have an iPhone 15 Pro and I’m kind of interested in buying a $200 pixel 8 off of eBay.

[–] Dustin03@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

oh def I have been daily driving a pixel 10a sense the 10a was launched with graphene os installed day 1 never going back but when motorolla comes out with graphene ill probably buy one then dont have google account anymore

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I have the 10XL pro. Its fine. Camera is solid, nothing else stands out. Some apps have ads, like te gallery offers to print pictures for you. Battery life is bad. A lot ofshit tier apps taking up space, pixel this and google that.

Worth it for gOS.

[–] python@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I used to really like Motorola but their lineup has really gone down the drain in the last few years. The last Motorola I had was a Moto G100 (2021) and I was reasonably happy with it until the battery started expanding in early 2025. When I tried looking for a new Motorola at that time I didn't find anything that didn't have completely disappointing specs, so I went with a Pixel 9 pro specifically for GrapheneOS. It was a really good upgrade. The camera is much better, the battery lasts longer and has fast-charging and wireless charging. I hope I won't be needing a new phone for the next few years but if I needed one right now I probably wouldn't go with a Motorola, even if I could keep using GOS on it.

[–] snache@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

I have a Motorola that runs Android 15. It would be great if GrapheneOS would work on it.

[–] determinist@kbin.earth 2 points 6 days ago

i bought a used 8 pro

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