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[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, it is simply impossible for me to stop using Facebook.

I never started.

[–] Wrongdoer2@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 month ago

I only ever made a Facebook account because of one club in college that never posted their meeting time and location, which changed, anywhere else and you couldn't access it without an account. Believe me I tried. The last time I interacted with that account was a couple years ago when I Got a notification that someone tried to log into it so I went and changed the password just to make sure no one would be impersonating me. I didn't give them more information than was necessary. I don't know that I even uploaded a photo of myself. In the people you may know section I only ever saw one person that I actually knew, which means I was probably doing something right

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 57 points 1 month ago (8 children)

The red pill is the answer.

I'm hoping this guy just hasn't consumed any popular media in the past fifteen years because that term has been associated with some pretty specific communities...

[–] phar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Which ones? Red = Trumpers or something?

[–] orc_princess@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)
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[–] magnue@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago

Used to be there was a sub Reddit called theredpill which was basically all about being an asshole to women for personal gain. (Something like that I don't remember the actual message)

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[–] jtrek@startrek.website 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As with all things involving humans, you can't really change minds with facts. It's just emotions and peer pressure.

Not a bad post, but I expect it won't sway people who aren't already on board.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It wildly depressing how many folks are still on and refuse to get out of Zucks world. Most even acknowledge it’s bad but it’s almost like cigarettes

[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

it’s almost like cigarettes

It really is. They employed psychologists to make it as psychologically addicting as possible. They studied the ways to make ppl engage the most. Which turned out to be in-group vs out-group rage. They designed their algorithms to pump that, nonstop. And on top of htat, every other psych trick they could find.

Avg person has no chance, when an entire ass team of big dollar PhD psychologists comes at them.

[–] deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I gave up Facebook way before cigarettes… No but seriously it does kinda suck because I do have my buddies numbers and text/call em but I’m a zoomer & we grew up in the internet age.

Even millennials / Gen X are planning family gatherings, BBQs/hangouts, even underground punk rock shows are just private Facebook groups now. Nobody really hands out zines or posts fliers around anymore for word of mouth, why would you?

Anyone who would already wants to go heard about it on Facebook. The posters were made on a laptop, never printed, posted to Instagram and FB. Kinda makes it easy to miss stuff, especially if it’s like the only way your dad or the new friend you made contacts the world or whatever. I still would never go back, tho. Just go out and talk to people in person lol & then let other people tell you about their crazy facebook posts later lol it’s more fun that way!!

[–] zikzak025@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

WhatsApp is probably the harder Meta app to quit.

I've had plenty of people say "But that's different, it's E2EE", but it's a closed-source black box that almost certainly has a backdoor built in already.

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 weeks ago

Show them this

https://gizmodo.com/trump-admin-closes-investigation-into-alleged-backdoor-for-whatsapp-report-2000751760

It's E2E but there's a 3rd E. And they send material to subcons for AI labelling, so most likely low wages countries with sketchy checks.

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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because of not having enough time and money to maintain the app, like the implementation of encryption and new features, founders Jan Koum and Brian Acton accepted the deal and sold the app for $19 billion to Mark Zuckerberg.

I imagine I'd also find that I don't have enough time and money to maintain something if someone offered me $19 billion for it.

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[–] FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yah. Most ppl would. Not all! But most.

Which creates a perverse incentive, right? The ppl making s/w with no malware, no spyware, they are lucky if they even make a living. Often they do it volunteer, or for low income. But those who do it to amass power, and sell that power to somebody, as here, they can roll in money.

To fix the whole s/w world, I believe we must fix the bad incentives. Might be lots of ways to do it, but it certainly helps a lot, if most ppl shun spyware. And support OSS authors who are genuine about keeping it out. Right now, most ppl do the opposite.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (5 children)

To be fair to Brian Acton, afterward, he did co-found the Signal foundation and give it a hundred million dollar zero-interest loan.

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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 22 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

No shit. Why people even started in the first place is crazy to me.

But if you are using them, please stop.

[–] Gonzako@lemmy.world 7 points 4 weeks ago

Here in Spain it was because WhatsApp took over cuz carriers charged for SMS and phone calls. Now there's a massive captive audience that self-reinforces. Same with Instagram if you're young or Facebook if you like having your brain melted

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 5 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Because instant messaging died out. Then it seemed like you were nothing if you weren't sharing the bitchiness of your life. Then tumblr died out. Now we're at the enshittification of it, with algorithms curating everything with an advertisement every three scrolls and an Ai post every two it's basically every one wheel scroll is your family and friends then three scrolls down you're seeing your memes.

It's shit.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I've been harping on this since Myspace and no one wanted to listen.

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[–] LeighWeighTacoma@lemmy.world 3 points 4 weeks ago

Someone yesterday just tried to get me on Instagram. No thanks.

[–] Digit@lemmy.today 21 points 1 month ago

19 years ago.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Since ever filtered in the Portmaster

[–] Crumpled6273@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Me too. via NextDNS.

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[–] minty@aussie.zone 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Only have messenger left. Considering doing another push to convince my stubborn friends to go on signal. Then I can finally be rid of meta

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago

I haven't been on in years. At first everyone said I was left out, IDC, text me better than fb/meta. I've been sm free since ~2016. It works just fine.

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[–] DreamsK@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

I gave up on Facebook. I've been using the MEWE platform for a long time. I replaced YouTube with Odysee. And for messengers I have Signal, Viber, Line, Telegram, Ratspeak.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I stopped using all Facebook products back in like 2015.

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[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use React, but that’s about it.

[–] vk8kv@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

the worst of meta's sins, the web hasn't been the same since React took along

[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

It unfortunately became a hammer for every nail. IMO, it’s a great tool when a SPA is actually merited.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Ahh, react, the reason why half the internet is buggy as fuck these days

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[–] Poxlox@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I really want to. But around here it's the de facto Craigslist, really really good for farm supplies and all sorts of used things. And well people use it for the events side, and there's lots of specific interest groups that are very active and informative. Which is why it's so hard for me to leave despite the fact I'd enjoy it if Zuck chucks himself into a volcano. I suppose I can just keep making sure I dont click a single ad, though I'm sure they're making money off me somehow. A frustrating situation.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (9 children)

The only problem is market place. If you want to seel of buy something locally. Everyone has switched to that.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

A lot of what is in this article is already common knowledge. And there's definitely a "sky is falling" spin to it.

Meta is shit and Zuck can kiss my ass, but the article is a bit sensational.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

Situation Normal: All Fucked Up.

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