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I still use gmail and drive for work but otherwise I'm never logged into anything google at home. Today when I tried to expand on a restaurant's hours it wouldn't let me see them without logging in, although it still worked in incognito. This restaurant screenshot is just a random other example I tried, but for the one I was actually checking google had the correct hours while the official website hasn't been updated in awhile and had the old ones (website said they're still open for dinner but they've only been doing lunch for a year or so now)

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

For Google, the primary difference between a logged-in user and one who is not logged in is the absence of any contractual agreement that legally binds the anonymous user to terms assigned by Google.

I haven't read a Google EULA in some time, but as I recall it was long and full of rights and waivers and privileges and protections you assign Google in regard to anything wherein you might possibly have legal standing. The log-in request is not universal, nor is it random, so it's safe to assume as a hypothetical that for whatever reason, Google wants that in this specific scenario, in this specific geographical region.

On the other hand, if you're not signed in -- AND Google can't link your anonymous use to an actual agreement you have with them elsewhere -- Google just doesn't have that same comfortably protected legal situation. (See Disney's recent legal behavior for an example of why, if Google can still link your non-signed-in behavior to an existing EULA elsewhere in their walled garden, you may still be fucked.)

OP's map seems to be located in the EU, which makes a legal difference as well. We already know that Google does whatever the fuck Google wants in the US, but in the EU laws tend to have more teeth as well as legislators very willing to go after violators.

All that said, I am not an attorney in Spain and I damn sure don't work for Google, so don't come at me lol.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Can't you just press dismiss? And make a ublock filter to stop it happening again

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

Nope, didn't work. I tried zapping elements with ublock but it wouldn't load the business hours.

[–] PostaL@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Oh the irony of installing that app through Google Play 🫠

[–] Wakamoly@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

This pisses me off as well, but it is essential to get it working in Android Auto. They purposefully block "maps"-type apps from showing no matter what I do via ADB (spoofing the "Installed from Google Play" requirement, for example). Best I can do is login to a throwaway account on Play, download OsmAnd (or similar), and disable networking (GrapheneOS) again for the "Play Services" app.

[–] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They will make everything mandatory log in for 100% named tracking soon, unless regulations call for otherwise.

These tech companies are the ones demanding ID laws to use the internet on computers. Microsoft OS already serves unique identifiers that can track down computers, and they want to close the loop.

They already have an overwhelming amount of information about us anyway, but the more perfect the dataset the more power, control and advertising revenue it affords.

These billionaire owned companies all want to enslave us all with absolute control. Call me paranoid or dismiss what I’m saying if you would like, but unless we can fix our politics in all of our respective areas to free them from the yoke of big money it will only get worse.

[–] GalacticRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Oh it's not just tech companies, it's tech companies getting ahead of the government who is going to demand the same thing. Say something that the government doesn't agree with, boom, you already have the information readily available.

We could fight against it and refuse to use these services, but that would change the things we are all addicted to.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 5 points 5 hours ago

OpenStreetMap ftw

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Which is why I'm building my own self hosted map application

Fuck Google with an umbrella

[–] tomatolung@sopuli.xyz 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 43 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I work in 911 dispatch, we're not really supposed to log into our personal accounts on the work computers, there have been a couple incidents (not specifically in the 911 center but other parts of our county government) where people have gotten viruses and such from opening links in their personal emails on county computers.

A lot of us in dispatch make pretty heavy use of Google maps. When a caller doesn't know where they are and we're not getting a good location from their cellphone, we can sometimes see a lot of details on Google maps that we can't see on the maps on our dispatch software.

There have been a couple times a caller has described a house to me and a general area that it was in but not the exact address, but I was able to get that address from looking around on satellite view and street view.

Sometimes we can see businesses and other places on it that aren't in our system or come up as something slightly different, like maybe everyone calls a school "the Smith School," but the actual name of it, and how it's listed in our system is the "John Q Smith Preparatory Academy" so if I search in our system for "Smith School" I won't find it, but if I look on Google maps I might see that pop up.

There's cases where like if the call is on the border between 2 towns and I need know which department to dispatch, I can look on maps for little landmarks that probably wouldn't be listed in any map software so that I can ask something like "are you on the same side of the road as the house with a big statue on the front lawn, or are you across the street from that house?"

Point is, it's a very valuable tool for my job in situations that can actually be life-and-death sometimes, and since I can't log in to it at work, I worry about getting shut out from features I use or even out of the service entirely.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That is a point you need to bring up in your official capacity with the 911 dispatch you work for. Tell them what is going on and ask for a system account to be set up for each agent so that it’s just a formal login that is tied to the job and nothing else.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

This is the way.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (9 children)

There's OpenStreetMap. I'm not saying that it's as suitable as Google Maps for you, but it's a possible option.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/

The're not a commercial service, and the database backing it is freely distributable, so it won't get cut off.

It doesn't have Google Street View, though, and attempts at reimplementing such a thing have been pretty weak, so if you need that functionality, won't help.

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[–] redditmodssucks@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Next gen911 is going to fix this I work for county making the maps for Newworld or whatever dispatch system you’re using. Soon the whole county will be running on NG911. You can look it up but it basically replaces using the old lookup your system currently uses that comes from a master list Verizon and att own.

[–] Fondots@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago

I really don't see how NG911 is going to help when all my callers can tell me sometimes is something like that they're near some trees, a big rock, and a brick wall. That's not exactly something I can punch into my CAD. Or when it's a 3rd party caller for their grandmother in a different town who needs help, but all they can give me is that it's a big yellow house about 2 blocks from the elementary school with a statue of a cow on the front lawn.

There's a lot of cool things that NG911 can help with, some of it is already implemented in my county, but they're largely not the things I use Google maps for.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 hours ago

Soon; "Or click here and we will stop bugging you for this and use you ip, mouse movement behaviors, scroll lag time and recent cookie history to identify you without having to even log in!"

[–] redlemace@lemmy.world 105 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Sure, go ahead irritating me when trying to use your service. Pushing me to log-in is THE way to drive me to other services. They have nothing to offer that's worth/can justify logging in. nothing.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

They probably don't care if you use a different service if you don't log in to use theirs. If you don't log in they can't easily monetize you by tracking your data and building a portfolio. Otherwise you use their resources at a cost and they don't make money.

So threatening to leave for other services isn't exactly a threat.

[–] chillpanzee@lemmy.ml 13 points 10 hours ago

They still know who most users are even without a google login; they can monetize just fine.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 16 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

For a long time google existed without an option to create an account

[–] GalacticRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Except the government wanting this information didn't exist. That's the future, you ID will be tracked (it already is) and the government will know exactly what you say, where you go, and what you do. Throw it at an 'AI' for 'normalcy' and you have Minority Report in a much sadder way.

[–] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Everyone is under suspicion. Criticism of Israeli genocides detected! Apply terrorism charges. Right to a jury ignored or circumvented.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

They don't care, but in 10 to 20 years time they will hire consultants to figure out why their user base chose inferior products to their superior free service.

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[–] Maestro@fedia.io 52 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You should see what they did with reCaptcha. Today for the first time I got the popup telling me to scan a QR code with my phone in order to continue. Well, fuck that.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 hours ago

Make sure to tell the owner of the site why you don't wasn't to use it anymore.

[–] poopkins@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

How ironic that Google signs me out of my account every 12 hours. It's exceedingly frustrating and I have no idea how to fix it. I've got a passkey set up with MFA—I'd have thought that would be enough.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

I use google maps in the browser on my phone without an account logged in. Every single time I open it, it gives me a pop up message begging me to use their app with two buttons at the bottom that are blatantly dark patterned and misleading to get you to accidentally click on their app store link.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 28 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

Everyone has their breaking points. The enshittification will continue until morale improves (by leaving Google).

The only Google properties I still use are YouTube and Scholar (occasionally).

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

udm14.com does not appear to be affected.

[–] ech@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

Better to use the udm14 for a custom search engine than to route your traffic through a separate party.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%25s&udm=14, depending in the formatting of your browser.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 10 points 10 hours ago

This trend is gaining traction. It stated with twitter, then other platforms followed, Reddit does it now too.

You can't monetize unlogged in traffic I guess.

[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 22 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (10 children)

I really just need to get off google entirely but I'm also very unmotivated/lazy/ADHD, and the common alternative FOSS maps just don't provide the same level of detail, especially in non-US or English speaking countries.

[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 19 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Depends on where you live, in the EU, openstreetmap.org is way more accurate than Google.

[–] ltxrtquq@lemmy.ml 15 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

And you can make a new hobby for yourself by updating things as you come across them

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 hours ago

It's sad to see how time and time again companies build up a big user base by being the best service out there, and then just assume that they'll be the market leaders forever and ever no matter how much they enshittify.

The amount of vendor lock-in with something like Google Maps is very close to zero.

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