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So, I've got a homelab thing going, with NextCloud and Immich and other things... using Docker. But the one thing I can't seem to wrap my head around is how to get my calendar needs met behind the scenes. I'm hoping there's some sort of calendar syncing server I can use.

The problem: I use NextCloud and another android app to use my calendar. Easy. Historically, my household has used a single Google Calendar shared amongst members.

The real problem: They won't ditch Google. But I need a solution so that I can:

  1. Sync their calendar events to my NextCloud calendar.
  2. Sync my calendar events to their Google Calendar. I think that the issue here is, the share links that the calendars give, can only be used to list a new separate calendar on each of the respective platforms - not sync the events between the existing calendars...

I'm hoping that there's maybe a syncing solution out there that can play middle man and sync the two calendars directly, rather than having separate calendars for the two environments?

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 2 points 19 hours ago

Trying to make your shit work with Google is and always will be a fruitless endeavour, because they do not want it to work, and will actively prevent it from working.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

You need to use google calendar api to sync back to google. To sync from google calendar to anything, you can use secret address ical format that you can obtain in calendar settings. Go to calendar -> settings -> settings of my calendars -> click on calendar you want and you will see "secret address ical format". you can use this url in any modern calendar software

[–] KingDingbat@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Thank you for the tip, but this does not allow writing events to the Google Calendar from other clients. Google iCal links, including the secret link, are read only which is the problem I'm trying to solve.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The easy way is to use a calendar client and not try to inject the calendar into your server.

[–] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Definitely easy, but not really a relevant response given the community we're in. Plus there's a lot of use in having your calendar synced to multiple places, not just your phone.

I never found an easy solution to set up for caldav and carddav yet personally. Most are either very complex to set up or they are no longer maintained which is bad for security vulnerabilities. So, I'm still stuck with Google because I need my reminders everywhere I go...ADHD.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Radicale was easy enough for me. Davx5 on android to connect to it, and that's it.

[–] irotsoma@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Should specify, I need it exposed to the internet as well so I can sync it to those multiple devices when I'm at my partner's place or traveling and so my partner can use it from her place.

And I'd prefer something that allows some type of SSO or external authentication mechanism so it can handle multiple logins with different calendars and I can put some layers of security in front of it. Radicale requires addon applications to do that and most aren't maintained.

Supposedly Radicale can do it with a WSGI server, but I never found one I got working.

Only one that came close was Baikal, but it had some issues and development has been really slow on it. It's been quite a few years though, maybe I will try that one again.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 day ago

Someone else mentioned just using a calendar client that can connect to different calendars.

I use Fossify to connect to calendars through Davx, which includes my Google calendar (configured it through DavX).

This way all entries remain independent. And I can filter my calendar view based on source calendar, and all entries are color coded (automatically) by which calendar they're on.

I know it's not exactly what you were asking for, buy it's one way to approach it.

[–] suzune@ani.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why don't you just subscribe to their shared calendars and have your own calendars hosted by yourself? I mean, I have around 10 to 20 calendars subscribed for different topics.

If you sync the Calendar with Google, you don't have privacy anyway. So I would at least protect my own private info, if they don't want.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I have issues with how often google and microslop allow to be refreshed.

There was a script workaround but new meetings or cancellations were what didnt work out - over a day to get across.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Tiritibambix@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

That's my post, and that's exactly what I was going to suggest :)

[–] Shmandom@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

Looks promising

[–] Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@KingDingbat I don't have a good answer for you (I'm in a similar situation, with my wife stuck using both google calendar and microsoft's extremely shitty calendar, while I use radicale). However, depending upon your goals for self-hosting your calendar, I'd ask whether you really *want* google seeing your calendar entries. If your goal is independence, then fine. If one of your goals is privacy, then sharing your calendar entries w/ google messes that up.

[–] KingDingbat@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Hahah hello friend. No, I don't want Google to have my calendar entries. I'm just trying to achieve baby steps peacefully with the family. If it were my choice, we'd cut off Google without a second thought, but ooooh no. We've been using Google Calendar for 20 years. We don't WANT to change. 🙄

Maybe something like this? keeper.sh

[–] Antagnostic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Possibly vdirsyncer. I have not used it myself.

[–] mhzawadi@lemmy.horwood.cloud 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Give everyone a login to nextcloud and share a nextcloud calendar with everyone, use devx5 on android to inject the calendar into the Google calendar app?

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago

Yea, getng people to do something is a challenge, let alone connecting a calendar to your server.

That's where we should be today, but people really don't understand how this stuff works, and won't even try to learn even if you explain it in simple terms.

[–] Shmandom@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago

Why won't they ditch Google for the calendar? Maybe they just need your help transitionning, and they won't complain once you've sorted that for them.