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[–] Stinky_Cheese@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Then protest. At least weekly. Not every 4 months. Even if it’s just you doing it. It has to start somewhere

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've been told many times that the vast majority of Americans are against Trump. If the VAST majority of your citizens are against the current leader and he is being allowed to do this much damage against the wishes of the vast majority YOU DON'T LIVE IN A FUNCTIONAL DEMOCRACY

[–] BillMurray@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

If it's the "vast majority" then why did you vote for him twice? Potentially three times if he has his way.

Yeah, we've known that. See citizen's United ruling.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I personally can't stand these kinds of posts since they're just so pointless. Are you expecting a pat on the back for making an internet post about how sowwy you are?

Maybe put in a bit more effort if you actually stand with us. Share links about communities with like-minded individuals. Show us what you have been doing to change your country. Show us how we can help you guys.

Edit: I'd love to know why I'm being downvoted.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

As a working class human I stand for the working and poor classes. Fuck nationalism.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree. Globalism is the best way forward for the whole planet. A universal collective moving forward positively into the future. The powers that be, however, make "globalism" sound like a conspiracy by the elites who eat children. Fuck this timeline.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

No Globalism sucks and got us where we are. Look at what happened the world depends on America so much they don't want to upset them.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sure. Canada is looking like the better vessel for basic humanitarian concerns, though.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you mean the way we've been shipping off primarily lgbtqia+ refugees?

Or the pipelines were pushing to build through indigenous territories that will make our already rampant wildfires even worse?

Or the loopholes we refuse to close for shipping weapons and money to Israel?

Not sure how humanitarian any of that is.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah yes, Trump is exactly ideologically equivalent to Carney. /s

It's not even close. You have to cherry pick hard to make Canada seem like the bad guy.

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both can be bad. You don't have to accept any level of bad. Hope that helps.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Really? If so, that's great news. It just doesn't seem true.

As far as I can tell, my support and effort for one, in it's struggle with the other, might not shift the balance much at all. Like, you try, but it just doesn't add up to much in the grand scheme of things. In that case, completely changing them both is out of the question.

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[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 90 points 3 days ago (5 children)

As a Canadian, I ask that Americans do more than stand there.

[–] techwooded@lemmy.ca 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I would say that people are doing stuff, but we're constrained by several things:

  1. Fixed election cycles: Once in office, only the fellow officers of the federal government, whether Congress or the top tiers of the Executive, are able to recall, expel, or remove officials in the government. Since all the branches of our government are held by one political faction, the chance of this is vanishingly small

  2. Lifetime appointment of judges: As a consequence of the actions of some key figures (cough cough, RBG) we're stuck with an extremely conservative and Trump allied Supreme Court that won't block or overturn any of the administration's actions

  3. The leaders of Congress have decided not to exercise their power which for the 249 years prior to 2025 has been the main check against something like this happening. Per point number 1 there's no recourse for citizens until this November essentially. I don't know the statistics in countries like the US vs Canada, but at least here in the South, Senators or Representatives in leadership positions get essentially a free walk at least to the general election, most of them through to reelection

  4. Due to how it was set up, the US Senate, whose main roll is essentially being the red or green light on much of the President's agenda, changes extremely slowly because we don't elect them all at once. Luckily this year, a majority of the Senate incumbents facing reelection (20 out of the 35) are Republicans, so the Democrats could (in theory) make significant gains or at least have more of a chance to

  5. This administration has shown that it really doesn't care about popular opinion at all about anything

  6. As others have mentioned in this thread, the administration has made it a habit of locating and locking up under terrorism charges people that publicly speak out against it and has made it practice to murder people in the street trying to help those in need, so the stakes are significantly higher than political change has been in the past

The main thing Trump has done is exposed just how much of our government has been de facto. I think one of the main issues is that the founders of the country basically assumed good faith in much of the mechanics the built into the system because that was more of a component of high class culture back then.

I think it's important to remember for us Americans too though that almost to a man, most of these guys hated each other and did everything in their power to undermine each other. People talk about polarisation in politics today like it's a new thing and totally unprecedented. The Era of Good Feelings lasted like 5 years people, democracy needs disagreement to survive

[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Radical change requires radical action.

A system built to stall/slow progress to retain the levers of power rarely changes from within.

We, Americans, should know this better than most. We've grown up with it after all. Propaganda and platitudes are just the smokescreen for the corporate owner classes that own the levers of control.

Reformation always follows a revolutionary time (violent or not). They're two sides of the same coin.

We're literally fighting pedophiles and rapists in office (or those who share their ideologies of gaslighting and DARVO.) Do you think they take no for an answer?

We want bike lanes, public transit, better social services, parks, etc. Well, you have 623 pieces of paper to file, 221 meetings, 73 votes to collect...

Meanwhile, look how fast those Flock cameras went up with barely any approval. Look how fast those data centers got approved and built. Closed, backroom deals with no input, or even just mayors outright vetoing the town's votes. They have the ideology of rapists.

And sitting here with all the reasons against us changes nothing.

I'm proud when they call us radical. Because we're radically fighting to make people's lives better. And the political mechanisms in place are designed to stop that. We live under neoliberal capitalism that is supposed to deliver us freedom and democracy. It has many underlying tensions. One is the freedom to grow capital vs the freedom of peoples. Our systems have been built on the freedom to grow capital OVER the freedom of peoples.

So the only way left for us to make change is to be disruptive. To get up and do something. And be willing to sacrifice for the greater good because the system is designed to take from us if we step out of line. It's designed to protect those with capital over those who deserve justice.

Just do whatever you can. I realize it's tough, I'm facing the same choices, putting food on the table, making sure my family is safe. But if we do nothing put complain and post online, what will we accomplish? Show your representatives that they should fear you. They are your employee, you pay them. Maybe stop paying them? Look at the war tax resistors for more info on that. Maybe protest in public spaces outside their residences and offices. Be a nuisance. Don't let them rest. They won't let you rest while they threaten our neighbors and our lives. And please, people, force some democracy into the workplace. We live most of our lives under these little kings. Force legislators to give us worker protections, amend the god damned constitution to give workers the protected right to strike.

I could go on and on...but vent over. I understand Canadians being frustrated, the world being frustrated, because I'm frustrated with how little Americans have accomplished so far. We're angry but we're still going to work and following the rules mostly because we're still scared. We rely too much on the capitalist machine. Start getting involved locally and building alternatives to the reliance on big corpos as much as possible.

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[–] humblearrogant@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

People are being imprisoned under terrorist charges for life for standing up to this government in peaceful protest

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

It ain't gonna get better by lying down or bending over.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 26 points 3 days ago (12 children)

Maybe should learn how to protest from the French.

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[–] OliveBrittle@piefed.ca 47 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Leave it to an American to come here, express sorrow to us, and then expect grace from us when all they do is type a sentence in a community that isn't targeted for them.

I'm sick of Americans coming into other communities, getting on their soap box, and then saying the bare minimum to expect praise. People have stereotypes about us saying sorry all the time, but online all it ever seems to be is self-deprecating Americans coming into communities of other countries saying "sorry we're like this..." and "I'm sorry for being American"

If you truly cared you wouldn't be here begging for internet points in a performative confessional, get out and do something, showcase it, and then maybe you get a pass because ten years of this crap in varying degrees has gotten extremely tiring.

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[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 48 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Wow, pretty awful comments here so far.

Thanks neighbour. I hate your government, but I don't hate you. You are not your government. Keep resisting in anyway you can.

[–] thetrekkersparky@startrek.website 5 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I think it boils down to a lot of frustration on our part. Every time he threatens us or another ally everyone says how sorry they are, but nothing comes of it and it just keeps happening.

[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

It's just as easy for us to commit sedition as it is for them to commit treason.

What are we doing to help them organize their revolution?

That shit ain't easy. We need to support any resistance we can, no matter how small.

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 days ago

Come back to us when you have done something about it.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You and me both. I've said this before, but here in the Pacific Northwest, we're more Canadian anyway. I doubt anyone would complain should Canada just take us.

[–] WasabiWabbit@lemmy.ca 2 points 15 hours ago

Please don't leave your issues on our doorstep. You need to make your own change. We really don't want to deal with your country on those terms. Leaving Canada or someone else to 'take / save you' is why that criminal is in your white house in the first place. No one is coming to save you. So move here yourself, or get out in the streets and start yelling.

[–] nocklobster@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (6 children)
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