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Firefox being free software, it wouldn't make much sense for them to try and do something like this. So obviously we know that Mozilla would never go along with such an absurd law and start doing censorship on behalf of France. ... right, Mozilla? Slightly strange that you didn't say so?
True... How would governments enforce dumb laws like that on open source software anyway?
They could still charge the leadership, fine them, and cause life to be a bit more difficult. Even if I don't live in a country, I wouldn't want that hanging over my head.
It's hard not living in a country
I guess it cannot be completely enforced. What they can do, however, is to say that Firefox is illegal in France unless it complies with their unjust laws.
Mozilla could either choose to comply and release a French version of Firefox with government mandated fixes, or decide not to comply and probably block firefox.com from being accessible from France. This would make it harder for French users to find an alternative browser, making even more people will stick to the pre-installed Chromium based one.
In general it's just not a good thing when open source software becomes illegal, no matter how hard the laws might be to implement.
Why would it be mozzilas responsibility to make their website unaccesible in france rather then that being the responsibility of french isp?
If north Korea puts up an obscure law that says all sites are banned from using english does that give them grounds to sue any sites that didn’t think of blocking them specifically?
The software can be open source, the product is branded and published.
I hope that it would only be the "Frensh Version" of Firefox that implements this and that at least everone outside of France would get a version without this crap. This would then of course, be available to Frensh people to. Hopefully crap laws like this get stoped... lets see
Did you know: Using adblockers is considered terrorist activity in france?
Is a "No soliciting" sign on my house also terrorism then? Wtf
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Why forcing the browsers? Couldn't they just make a law for ISPs to block specific domains?
This is already possible (and is actively used, mainly for piracy related websites) with the current laws.
Aand it's never enough
Why do right wingers hate freedom so much?
Why do right wingers hate freedom so much?
What? Am I on crazy pills? This has nothing to do with polticial leaning. Its man VS big gov.
Because they see the freedom of people who aren't like them as an abridgement of their freedom to force everyone to be like them.
"Do you not know my son, with how little wisdom the world is governed?" 🤷♂️
Ok, it's a freedom and free speech nightmare, but are they stupid or something? They are aiming for the browsers instead of ISPs (and DNSes?)?
I do not like france
I am French and I state that in fact I do not like France
How the fuck could a law like that possibly be enforceable? Mozilla should just tell them to go fuck themselves, offer alternative IPs so people can get around country-wide DNS blocks, and then go about their day. Who cares what some spineless country wants?
because it sets a precedent. "oh france did it, its not too bad"
Can we sign it even it we don't live in France?
If worse comes to worst, someone can fork Firefox and remove the in-browser censorship. That is the beauty of FOSS.
Now imagine if something like this would happen after Google manages to DRM the internet? You won't even be able to fork the browser...
Whelp, I signed in the dumbest way possible. Signed under the name Lupine Arsène. Only thing I regret is not putting the country as France to complete the dumb joke.
So things like curl or lynx would be illegal eh? Good luck enforcing those.
Signed. Although I wanted to ask if it has any value if it was signed by someone from outside of France/not French?
Even petitions from within France don't have any value. Our current government doesn't really care about this kind of action (or any type of action, actually).
Signed. Enough with this kind of bullshit in the EU.
Signed and shared on Mastodon
As always I am reminded that governments are run by the tech illiterate.
So, what kind of sites does France want to censor? Piracy?
It starts with the basics; piracy, cp, etc. Then it becomes whatever the highest-paying corporation wants to censor. Opposing political views? Check. Anything pro-free thinking? Check. There's no end to this, so we have to head it off at the pass. If corporations own the Web, we have lost (and we're shamefully close to that reality...)
Oh yeah, let the government decide on censorship. I see nothing wrong with that. Oh! I know, let's have a point system based on how much they support the governments policies too!
And this how the end of a civilization or at least of an era looks like.
The neoliberal system of deregulation of the economy and finance sector, of privatization, of weak states on these topics is crashing right in front of us. It requires now non-democratic, authoritarian, decisions to keep the head outside of the water and not shrinks undersea. The destruction of the environment is a symptom of this end.
A small minority wanted unlimited in a limited world. They wanted to touch the stars and burned their fingers. Like arrogant teenagers, they said it's nothing and let find solutions that are no more than placebos. But, even this now doesn't work anymore. They have to use the authoritarian card, another placebo.
It won't change today. It's a long process which can be accelerated if the population takes the lead. They know this fact. The authoritarian card is here to keep the population quite by restricting the access to the information "for the general good". They want to control this aspect of the life too.
But the monster they created is already out of control. It makes and always made more damage than good. They accelerated the neoliberal agenda to keep it calm but it doesn't work. They are running after it and after their inevitable lost.