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$300 Vision Pro developer strap is just an expensive USB2 device::Apple is selling developers a $300 USB-C dongle to connect the Apple Vision Pro to a Mac, but in this incarnation, it turns out to be no faster than Wi-Fi.

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[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 113 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So a supposedly cutting edge $3500 device plus an additional $300 dongle gets a wired connection speed from the year 2000. USB 2 is 24 years old

Welcome to the future folks.

[–] fah_Q@lemmy.ca 27 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'd pay double that for an apple Istrap-on™!

[–] badaboomxx@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

You mean the bill?

[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 months ago

Now with direct connection to all of your favourite apps!

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Vision Cum Pro

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 16 points 9 months ago

Nah but it's white and designed very sleek so it must be worth it

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I knew, that's why I bought so many apple stocks.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 70 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's hilarious how Apple still insists on making all their mobile devices USB 2. Have they not cracked the code for USB 3 after 11 years?

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

USB 4 was designed 4 years ago ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB4 ) and they still using usb 2? TIL

[–] smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

USB 2, 3 and 4 are not direct new versions depracating previous ones. Those are tiers, versions are reprecented after the point, like 3.1 is directly better than 3.0 .

USB 2 is not something that shouldn't be used because USB 3 exists. It is just simpler, just four pins, two for power and two for data, meanwhile USB 4 requires much more complex stuff. Just like new Intel i7 processor does not invalidate new Intel i3.

Still on a high-end phone 2.0 is bad, like putting i3 on high-end laptop.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What is bad, that is asking such prices for USB 2, that's what I've meant, it's like selling another 8gb of ram to upgrade to 16gb total for 500$

[–] Chronographs@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 months ago

The pro models aren’t usb 2, just the normal models, as those are using the same processor as last gen. The usb controller is in the processor and last gen they were using lightning (which was usb 2.0).

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The iPhone 15 pro is usb 3 and I believe current gen iPads are either usb 3 or thunderbolt

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The iPhone 15 pro is usb 3

After the EU forced them to adopt USB C

[–] Fisch@lemmy.ml 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's not about USB C but about the USB version. Only their Pro models have USB 3 but the other ones have USB 2.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

USB 3 wasn't an option whilst they were sticking with lightning, and if the EU hadn't forced them they clearly wouldn't have switched.

The reason the new non-pro iPhones use USB 2 is because they still use the old chip which previously used lightning, and as such never had a reason to support USB 3.

So I would say this is about the connector, even though you're technically correct that the protocol is separate from the standard.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The reason they have USB2 is because they are using the same motherboard as previous models. They just soldered the USB-c port to where their lightning port used to be.

Meaning their lightning port was about as fast as USB2.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Not the same motherboard, but the same SoC.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes only the very top model. But get this. They shipped it with a USB 2.0 only cable. You know, just to stick the knife in a little bit anyway. Those guys sure know how to make a joke.

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

The very top model is the Pro Max. Pro is the second top model, by price. But yeah…

As a side note, the cable is actually really nice if usb 2 is fine. It’s super flexible and braided, all of my other braided cables are much more stiff. I would buy a longer one if they made one.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)

$300 for a strap from Apple? That's cheap compared to the $999 wheels. People are gonna gobble those up lickety split.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You’re not the target for either; they’re meant to milk business customers who don’t care about price.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I am fully aware my sad, poor, sorry ass is not the target market for pretty much any Apple product.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They’ve gotta be trolling at this point.

[–] vanontom@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just extracting wealth from the ~~cult~~ fans and tech illiterate. And they will keep pushing the insane prices, until people stop paying (sounds familiar). I wish they'd use their absurd profits to actually bring to market something truly spectacular. Dyson makes more daring and innovative products, funded by vacuums, heh.

[–] modcolocko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

dyson is in every sense the apple of vacuums lol

[–] vanontom@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. To be clear, I only meant this in the most insulting way to Apple, the proud engineers of $300 goggle straps and $1000 monitor stands.

[–] modcolocko@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 9 months ago

You realize how massive of a marketing pull both of those are right, the 1000 dollar wheels were like 20% why people didn't forget the mac pro 2 days after it was announced.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

It's Closed Source. No one truly knows how it really works. That means you were right to begin with. It's a gorramn cult.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 20 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

"think again!"

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Buy different, oculus

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If it’s just USB 2, wouldn’t that be slower than WiFi in a lot of cases? Maybe not in a crowded area (like offices, which is probably a representative environment for a lot of developers purchasing this), but if you’re in short range of an AP you should be able to get over 500Mbps. Apple also likes to use WiFi direct, such as in airdrop, which can cut the AP out for shorter distance and therefore faster speeds.

[–] randombullet@programming.dev 9 points 9 months ago

It's also Wifi AX which I've hit 600mbps with my phone.

Buttttt it's wifi AX for 5ghz only.

[–] AGD4@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Aren't they really paying for a dev license and support? Can they develop for the apple vision without the device?

edit

Nevermind. The article suggests the strap is a development "accelerator". :/

[–] vexikron@lemmy.zip 19 points 9 months ago

Yep thats right, you can totally do photoshopping or coding or work on spreadsheets with this device, it totally isnt an extremely overpriced demo of what could maybe someday kind of almost make sense for anything beyond extremely casual computer usage.

[–] Railison@aussie.zone 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So what are the Apple engineers using?

[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

Finding new and innovative ways to charge $300 for a USB cable.

[–] Toes@ani.social 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So when should I expect the collaboration between Elon and apple? so I can get an eye phone like Futurama.

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Sooner than we think, which is scary, imagine suddenly catching cyberpsychosis because you didn't paid your monthly kiroshi optics subscription fee and constant ads even if you paid

[–] Toes@ani.social 7 points 9 months ago

Ransomware on your life

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

Yes my choom, these gonkbrains are gonna get fried.

[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Typical Apple....🤦

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

The future is here, and it's ridiculously SLOW and ridiculously EXPENSIVE.

I'd rather stay in 2012. The switch to Lightning is basically all I can handle when it comes to controversy.