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no one can understand AI (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 days ago by GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/52826581

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[–] raman_klogius@ani.social 1 points 21 hours ago

It was better when it was just ifs and for loops and runs on potatoes and does actually useful things.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And the human brain is just fatty tissue and neurons.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

A donut is just a hole with a circle drawn around it.

[–] HexaBack@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago

A circle is just a shape with one side

[–] NotAnOtter@lemmus.org 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's just a series of 10 trillion floats. And we don't really know what the individual floats represent and changing them degrades performance but hey

Technically. It's just if statements.

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Cool; walk me through attention layers plz.

[–] afk_strats@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. It's some if statements and some loops but with CUDA and matrix multiplication

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Great; that describes all functions, so we've nothing to worry about.

[–] embed_me@programming.dev 25 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No no we still gotta worry about people in power allowing the worst possible use of technology at everyone's expense for personal gain..

So same old

[+] locuester@lemmy.zip -14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What specifically do you want the people in power to do?

[–] f314@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A very good start would be people not having that much power to begin with. Especially not if they’re not democratically elected representatives.

But for the people in power we’re seemingly talking about (AI company leaders):

Not presenting AI as something mystical/mythical
Not turning AI into a product tailored to be addictive
Not framing AI as a tech only they can be trusted to keep and distribute (see also point 1)
Maybe developing the technology towards what gives most utility, not what earns them the most money (fat chance)

[–] searabbit@piefed.social 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just want these AI companies to be held accountable for openly trying to hack everyone. It's ridiculous they're allowed to hide behind "AI did it, not us" as if what their product does isn't their responsibility.

[–] stembolts@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Think of it as a game, the players are corpo, and gov.

Corpo hacks planet, gov says, "Hm, that's pretty bad corpo, we could hold you accountable.. but.. that's pretty neat, maybe share a lil with us how you achieved this terrible incident (that we totally don't want to leverage against international peers) and we can forget this happened.."

A game of incentives.

If the gov comes down too hard, they could slow the development, the same development that they short-sightedly want to exploit in parallel with the accused.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Regulation? I mean is this really an honest question? Are you really that unfamiliar with what regulation is?

[–] NotAnOtter@lemmus.org 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Please explain what this one specific weight is, and why that value shouldn't be higher or lower.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

Explain to me how a weight = an IF statement or a FOR loop

[–] leo@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Here you go: Let's build GPT: from scratch, in code, spelled out.

[–] NotAnOtter@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago

GPT is basically a machine that builds machines.

We understand how the machine builder works. We don't understand how the output of the machine works. Like mechanically we understand each individual sub-component works e.g. a single matrix multiplication, but we don't understand why specific weights are the value they are, or the broader macrostructure.

I don't think you realize that acting like "No we actually do understand how it works" just reveals that you don't understand the question, it does not show that the question has an answer.

[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

not really it is mostly automatic gradients on billion parameters and shit loads of regularization.

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ha, in fact it's all GOTO jumps like on a trampoline.

[–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

It's all just NAND gates?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 3 days ago

It's not really cold though is it. It's just a lot of numbers and those numbers somehow do things. Like it says no one understands it.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

"It's like Blade Runner, but we'll make sure the robots aren't the villains this time" -- some billionaire, probably

[–] FridaVanMercury@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 days ago

YandereGPT