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I've tried both [Lemmy and PieFed], and the UX is incredibly unintuitive and unpleasant. The main problem is that it's quite hard to discover content you want while avoiding content you don't, Bluesky at least has really good custom feeds that are easy to add (the default feed sucks). Another big issue is the general site layout, it's hard to figure out how to do things as simple as saving a post for later or how to go back to the feed without being redirected back to the post I'm trying to exit.

Maybe they didn't see the "Feeds" feature in PieFed? The top navigation menus in PieFed are a bit messy. Although shareable blocklists could be cool too, or maybe toxic?

That's excluding the horrible lack of contrast most frontends use, which makes reading and parsing the site elements unnecessarily difficult (no Lemmy, grey text on a grey background is not good for readability).

I like the Lemmy colors, but maybe it should be easier to change, because they might like the darkly-pureblack theme.


Fediverse feels slower, but not in a good way. More of a ‘if I don’t use this for a week, I’ll see new things’. If I log in after 2 or 3 days, I’ll scroll for 10 minutes and see the stuff I saw last time.

Maybe this is a UX issue of not finding the right feed they would like.


I've tried using lemmy and have exactly the same issue. After blocking all the politics stuff, left wing meme stuff and tankie stuff there's bugger all remaining. Even with all the blocks I've made it just seems to be a bunch of toxic left wing people calling each other fascist because of some minor difference in opinion.


I also want nsfw stuff now and then. I hate how censored the internet has become, at least with reddit if I want to see a bit of porn, I can.

Again maybe a UX issue of not presenting what communities they could subscribe to.


I tried twice to join those forums within the Fediverse and I can't get past the captcha test. The fact that you need approval to validate your access doesn't seem designed to encourage you to recommend it.

The captchas on Lemmy are AWFUL, I can't do them either.

(that's the "Medium" difficulty)

Lemmy v1.0 is adding the ability to do invites, so maybe there will be an invite-only instance that gets some momentum, that could be cool. Invite sites seems like a cool old-internet type of culture.


The fediverse stuff is way too complicated for me, Reddit is very easily accessible and actually has active communities for the topics I'm interested in.


Of course these are naturally going to be all negative because they're users that bounced off the Threadiverse, but there's probably hints to what can be improved

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[–] tomselleck@sopuli.xyz 55 points 5 days ago (18 children)

Are they using a 3rd party app like Voyager? It makes a big difference.

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 32 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

most of them no, which is maybe another issue of not showing that's an option, but really the default UIs need to be good

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 36 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The reddit UI sucked in the past and sucks more now. The main reason that reddit grew was because of the incredible apps that 3rd parties made like RiF.

Lemmy now has a bunch of mature and efficient apps that are easy to use.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A couple of the apps were even made by reddit app devs that abandoned the platform. So some of the lemmy/piefed apps are literally those remade.

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[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

maybe but this is accurate

Even with all the blocks I've made it just seems to be a bunch of toxic left wing people calling each other fascist because of some minor difference in opinion

lol

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago

Thank you for the "feedback" ☺️

(The title of the OP...)

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[–] MxRemy@piefed.social 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is completely bananas to me, given the Reddit UI...

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

yea it's awful but they're used to it lol

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stockholm syndrome to the max

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or they've already invested effort into figuring out ways around it - like old reddit+RES. Whereas for Lemmy there is less content overall and it's a change that they haven't yet seen the value in making the switch.

And also Stockholm syndrome to the max:-)

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I'm commenting from https://old.piefed.zip/ , the experience is very similar to old.reddit

[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

More of a ‘if I don’t use this for a week, I’ll see new things’. If I log in after 2 or 3 days, I’ll scroll for 10 minutes and see the stuff I saw last time.

I had this exact experience. The solution? Just loud subscribe to stuff and now I have 80 notifications a day about new posts which I struggle to keep up with. Clearly the fediverse isn't as inactive as I had the impression from just browsing it.

The captchas on Lemmy are AWFUL, I can't do them either.

Do all Lemmy frontends use those captchas? Might be a reason to recommend a different one by default.

I do have to say, I bounced off Lemmy and Piefed mostly due to their UI and UX. I probably wouldn't have joined the fediverse if I didn't come across a kbin.social recommendation back then. Mbin is much more up my alley, though not ideal either, but it has worked out for me so far.

[–] tfm@europe.pub 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Captchas are served by the server, not a frontend thing. Otherwise they would be pretty useless for spam protection.

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[–] CheesyFingers@piefed.social 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I genuinely don't care what their feedback is. lol

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 24 points 5 days ago (4 children)

it's kinda funny how they're freaking out over Lemmy and Piefed's "incredibly unintuitive and unpleasant" UX compared to... Reddit?

If they really love the ads, bots, and default feed of Reddit then I'm happy they're staying there. I just hope for their sake they don't get site-banned by an overzealous AI moderator.

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 2 days ago

Adblock exists, and niche subs (too small to be worth being targeted by bots) actually exist too, unlike here - like a sub dedicated to someone's local area. Oh, also bots are here on the Threadiverse too.

I'm not advocating for Reddit, just trying to help you understand that you are not seeing their actual experience. Many people avoid r/all (actually r/popular) like the plague, and use old-reddit with RES (I've never touched that one personally but supposedly it's nice or sth?), which they are comfortable and familiar with.

Yes, they might be banned and if so then perhaps they'll come here, or possibly just as likely leave social media behind altogether. Reading books, touching grass, there are better ways to spend one's time, and for news perhaps an RSS reader could be preferable anyway.

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think it's the default as "active" that screws people up. They think it's stale because they've probably not seen any new content for hours.

[–] eighty@aussie.zone 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

My favourite "feature" is sorting by Top 6 hours and Top 12 hours and actually seeing an end of content

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[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 11 points 5 days ago

maybe also because a lot of instances default to "Local" instead of "All"

[–] iForgotSpells@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Bro Reddit has horrible UI/UX

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 7 points 4 days ago

I agree, but what do I know? I've only got a master's in UX.

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I've tried both [Lemmy and PieFed], and the UX is [...]

That's excluding the horrible lack of contrast most frontends use, which makes [...]

IMO both of the UIs are going to feel weird and limited to someone coming from Reddit / Instagram etc. I find that custom front ends like Photon are a lot better for newcomers.

I know Lemmy is working on a completely new frontend.

Fediverse feels slower, but not in a good way. More of a ‘if I don’t use this for a week, I’ll see new things’. If I log in after 2 or 3 days, I’ll scroll for 10 minutes and see the stuff I saw last time.

I have a constant flow of new content, and see something new every time I open it (which is often, after years of having that muscle memory from reddit).

I'm subscribed to a lot of communities + using scaled sort

I also want nsfw stuff now and then. I hate how censored the internet has become, at least with reddit if I want to see a bit of porn, I can.

This one was weird to me. I remember seeing complaints that reddit has been banning and shutting down its NSFW side, while it's accessible here.

I tried twice to join those forums within the Fediverse and I can't get past the captcha test. The fact that you need approval to validate your access doesn't seem designed to encourage you to recommend it.

I want Lemmy to support HCaptcha

Past that, most people are ok with applications once you explain why they're necessary.

Also a lot of social media platforms started out as invite only as marketing strategy lol

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 14 points 5 days ago

Most issues aren't "real" issues, Lemmy and PieFed have great feature-sets. They're issues with UX/presentation and onboarding.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 8 points 4 days ago

Even with all the blocks I've made it just seems to be a bunch of toxic left wing people calling each other fascist because of some minor difference in opinion.

Lol. This part rings so true!

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Most of the UI complaints can be solved by using a different front-end. I guess that should be emphasized more when trying to convince people to try it. If any of those people never used old.reddit, I doubt they’ll like reddit either if that was the interface.

[–] squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi 2 points 2 days ago

I didn't like the Reddit UI either (old and new), that's why I used 3rd party apps to access it. When they closed down the API, I left. Reddit always had UI problems.

[–] Auster@thebrainbin.org 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

On UI: dunno if it's a me thing, but it would seem to me as that every site's bad until you get used to it. Piefed for example I find kinda bloated but once I learned where to look, it became much easier to use.

On avoiding content: yeah, requires some patience people usually don't have to block everyone and every place that lowers the quality of the user's feed.

On slower feeds: maybe an autism thing, or maybe because in Mbin, I consume both threads and microblogs, but I feel the opposite, too much to see, enough that I am forced to curate.

On seeing posts again: a bit of a tangent, but both Lemmy and Piefed have post-hiding features. The option is "hidden" in the 3 dots menu of each post, which would imply people are forgetting these 3 dots mean "more options"? Perhaps in this line, having a "more" button like on Mbin would be better?

On porn: FediNSFW. 🕵‍♂

On being complicated: migrating and integrating usually is, but if you do, you need to bear with it.


Would make those comments there if I still had access to my account. Oh well.

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[–] eepydeeby@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago

If I log in after 2 or 3 days, I’ll scroll for 10 minutes and see the stuff I saw last time.

This is the whole reason I use Lemmy! I hate the endless algorithmic slop feeds designed to ensnare users for as long as possible. Let me reach the end! Let me see how posts I've already seen have developed! Let me be done with a website for any amount of time!!!

[–] historicaldocuments@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Reddit? The Lemmy alternative?

I won't go there, but someone go into that thread and try saying something good about Lemmy and see if it sticks.

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[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

honestly compared to mastodon I can check Lemmy all day and see new things that are actually interesting.

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[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago

I’ve tried both [Lemmy and PieFed], and the UX is incredibly unintuitive and unpleasant.

Have they forgotten about old reddit's "idiot filter" UI ?

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