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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago (3 children)

private planes, yachts, private chefs, etc seem like such an obscene amount of luxury it shouldn't be allowed somehow. public services would be better if the wealthy were forced to use them, then they might actually care about the constant shittifying of everything

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

"Private planes" may refer to a Piper Cub. It's expensive, but in some areas may make sense, and fits under a hobby. Some people dream of piloting.

"Yachts" may refer to a motorboat. Or a yacht as in "motorboat with one sail". It's expensive, but very often honestly worked for. Some people dream of yachting.

I'm just informing you of cases you clearly didn't think about.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was just looking at planes this week, can get an experimental one seater for like $30k.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I need the link.

(But - yes. I was still thinking of "real" planes, but I suppose there may be something flying for that cost. If you don't mean a glider.)

[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

You're overthinking it. People who have it better than me are automatically bad, and all crimes are authorized against them.

[–] nsfwthrowaway411@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 8 months ago

Getting a private pilots license is a lot cheaper than I thought once I started researching it. The total cost of everything (school/instructor time/flight hours) seemed to average around 15k. Instead of buying a new car for 40k you could probably reasonably afford a pilots license and a plane share with a couple other people.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Private chefs even? Really?

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Apparently more people here agree than disagree.

I think owning a small plane is fine. I'm not officially against owning a larger plane... Idk..

Aviation makes up about 2% of global CO2 emissions which is a lot but also not a lot. It's not the smaller planes, it's all of the passenger and cargo jets (mostly).

[–] Master@lemm.ee 9 points 8 months ago

Anyone who has taken a cruise and is harping on jets is a hypocrite.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

IIRC the biggest problem with that 2% is it's already in the upper atmosphere. Don't have a source for that though.

Here's a source for your comment btw:

https://ourworldindata.org/ghg-emissions-by-sector

which links to this paper (direct 296 kB pdf download link):

https://theicct.org/sites/default/files/publications/ICCT_CO2-commercl-aviation-2018_20190918.pdf

and aCKSHUALLYY it's 1.9%

[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Oh dang my whole world is upside down now. Lol.

Thanks

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[–] _number8_@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

it's kind of a stretch, yeah, but it just feels so gross, in that same way a yacht or plane does, seeing tiktok vids of someone laboriously crafting this gorgeous, perfect meal for one (1) fucking middle-CEO-partner-twat and his family. if you make enough to afford something like that, get fucked, you definitely don't work hard enough to deserve it.

it's probably a way easier shift for the chef than a restaurant dinner rush, which is great, but it's just...such an obscenity to think some have access to this sort of luxury because they shook the right hands at the business office / were born into generational wealth.

[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Now this is environmentalism

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Love a good name and shame

[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 34 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Every time I read a story about some billionaire getting angry about their private jets being tracked I recall a part of the Kim Stanley Robinson novel Ministry for the Future, a (very) near-future tale about how a few global climate catastrophes wreak such havoc that regular people start taking extreme measures -- for example randomly shooting down passenger aircraft for months, causing the collapse of the air travel industry. I have to imagine that the 1%ers are thinking about that too now.

[–] keefshape@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That book is a not-so-covert manifesto, I swear.

In the book, I noticed upon re-reading -- it was always the biggest polluters (usually, the richest of the rich) that had unfortunate drone-strikes while flying.

Not the electric planes. No commuter planes. Straight up 1%-er targets.

B admits to it later on in the book, when they hint B might be Mother.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 8 months ago

I have to imagine that the 1%ers are thinking about that too now.

"If those kids could read, they'd be very upset."

[–] SuperSynthia@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Would you say it’s a good book? I’m always down for a riveting read :)

[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

It was kind of a difficult read for me - things just hit a little too close to home for me, and the resolution was too perfect. I'd still recommend it though - at the end of the day it's still Kim Stanley Robinson, and he is an absolute master of hard social-scifi.

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I would say it is an okay book. It's a little too optimistic on the human side which his books all tend to be. It's worth a read though of only to give some idea of possibilities.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"optimistic" just above was talking about how terrorists were shooting planes out of the sky killing people

[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Everyone has a different definition of optimism. 🙂

More I meant the final outcome. I don't think the eco terrorism would be as effective or as coordinated. ELF certainly did not end up changing much in a positive way.

[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] aidan@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

That's what I said

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[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

Kim Stanley Robinson is likely one of the best sci fi authors alive. You generally can't go wrong with his stuff.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.de 2 points 8 months ago

Read it! Simply skip chapters you don't like. Watch this speech after you finished the book.

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[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

Rich people deserve to suffer.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

2.5million people have private planes registered at just one airport? Man do I feel like a poor right now.

[–] ButtDrugs@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's mostly landing/takeoff records. Big airports have takeoff and landing fees and would keep records such as this for accounting and legal reasons. Being a major airport like LAX means it's probably mostly private/commercial jets, but also plenty of small time hobbyist aviators are probably wrapped up in this, and would be the only victim here ( general aviation pilots tend to use smaller, local airports but still on occasion hit the big ones).

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

No. 2.5 million people have used them. And not all private planes are fancy luxury sky-yachts.

For instance, a small prop-job used for flight training.

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Truly the perfect meme and response.

[–] Luisp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago

Added to the cool crimes list

[–] TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Gonna get downvoted for this: Doxing isn't cool.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 43 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Doxxing normal people isn't cool. Doxxing people who own climate damaging transport.... I'm not against.

[–] Clubbing4198@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

they also have the money to protect themselves from doxxing.

[–] Setnof@feddit.de 5 points 8 months ago

~~Tax~~ Eat the rich!

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[–] telllos@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

Poor billionaires !

[–] nihilvain@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 months ago

they exploited a vulnerability in the airport’s Customer Relationship Management (CRM) system

CRM, No surprise 🫠

[–] Jackhammer_Joe@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

2.5 million times "Taylor Swift" on that list

[–] roguetrick@kbin.social 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

Some boring articles occasionally hits the front page when the thumbnail gets swapped for porn. Funny every time.

[–] whodatdair@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago
[–] banichan@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I got up an hour early. Beat that, hacker known as 4chan.

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