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While I am quite excited about the Walton Goggins-infused Amazon Fallout series, the show debuted some promo art for the project ahead of official stills or footage and…it appears to be AI generated.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 129 points 2 years ago (3 children)

My guess is that AI’s first big victim for graphic design will be stock art. Previously, crap like that background asset would just be stock purchased from Getty or Adobe stock. Now it can be generated.

I’m already starting to use it instead of paying for bullshit licenses.

[–] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Graphic designers aren’t the first. Automation ended a lot of jobs for decades. Ai is just a form of automation.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

The wheel is a form of automation

[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

They said AI, not automation.

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago

They will be generating it themselves soon enough. I contributed some stock photos in the past. They recently sent me info about their new contribution pipeline, for content that may not pass the usual quality threshold, but will help train the models. If they do it right, who knows, maybe they can get better results worth paying for.

[–] Hubi@feddit.de 97 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't even mind the use of AI art in this context, but the fact that they couldn't be bothered to do a little touch-up speaks a lot to the quality that can be expected from their show.

[–] cjthomp@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Their absolute mangling of the Wheel of Time tells me exactly what to expect from this show.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I didn't even get past 30 min. After seeing what they did to Mat's family and character I was out.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Perrin is already married? Nope, out.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

They did Mat so dirty the actor playing him peaced out before they finished filming the first season

[–] DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

But Egwene could totally be the DR, you guys...

🙄

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That means no copyright- woohoo go nuts!

[–] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 2 years ago

Quoting the U.S. Copyright Office's own guidance:

In other cases, however, a work containing AI-generated material will also contain sufficient human authorship to support a copyright claim. For example, a human may select or arrange AI-generated material in a sufficiently creative way that “the resulting work as a whole constitutes an original work of authorship.” Or an artist may modify material originally generated by AI technology to such a degree that the modifications meet the standard for copyright protection

Don't go nuts.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Goathound@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ech0@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

What's the S?

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is a viral marketing campaign. I hadn't heard of the show, now I have. It's a fuck you to artists and a planned rage bait to get people talking about the show.

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah I thought so, there would be no way that they'd screw up like that unless it was intentional

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 22 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm a little skeptical that it's AI generated because a lot of those details could be the result of kitbashing, which is especially common with concept art (here's an example from Guild Wars 2). It could be they just grabbed a piece of concept art, slapped some promo stuff on top of it and called it a day. That said, considering how much of a hard-on Hollywood has for AI, I wouldn't put it past them to generate promo art with an AI.

I wasn't planning on watching it anyway, but I wanted to throw in my two cents.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

That car is such an AI dead giveaway.

[–] Zardozer@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

That’s clearly not kitbashing, when you have a car completely backwards and don’t even bother to fix it. Why would the perspective be mostly correct yet be backwards? You’d have to pull from two sources that had a) the exact same art style, b) have the same perspective, yet c) have one of the cars be backward. And finally d) not give a shit about it to correct it.

[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

The red car literally looks like it's backwards lmao

[–] CoolBeance@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Well this is already taking points off for sure. But let's see if the show is good. If they stay true to the games and create a truly unique show, maybe it will be worthwhile.

[–] CleverNameAndNumbers@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The current fallout developers aren't even staying true to the games anymore so my hopes aren't high for the series

[–] CoolBeance@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Why must you hurt me with the truth? Counterpoint though: Almost heaven

[–] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Without someone pointing it out you'd have not even noticed that it's AI generated. As most people don't look at this art longer than a second.

[–] CoolBeance@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I probably wouldn't have but if there are errors as big as those and they're trying to slide it by me, that's pretty slimy.

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

How will they stay true to the games? It’s not The Last of Us where you literally play through a story. Fallout is all about exploring the wasteland at your own pace and shaping the world as you see fit.

Every game has had times when I’ve sat and seriously considered a choice that had massive consequences and mixed both benefits and steep drawbacks. Like in The Pitt, where you have to decide whether to kill a baby’s parents in front of it to liberate the people enslaved there. On a tv show, they’ll have the main character… mull it over and make a decision for the audience? How do you even translate that?

[–] Blxter@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Exactly. They just have to follow the in game universe and how it operates. Obviously they can not have us as watchers dictate what happens but instead transfer that look. , Feeling to the person on screen. As long as they get the universe of fallout correct it will do good. All they have to do is make a good story if they fail at that then gg.

[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t personally care so much about strict (some amount is needed) game-lore following but I would want to have it feel the same if that makes sense.

I want to feel the wastes and the personalities and ideologies that have reigned supreme since the bombs fell. I wanna feel that mystery and that goofiness that I’ve come to love from each of these games.

Can’t flop harder than 76 did and I got a feeling Bethesda is gonna take extra long on the next one, hence this tv show to satiate for a bit (maybe who tf knows it’s Bethesda and Amazon man)

[–] CoolBeance@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

This is an interesting question actually. In my head, "staying true to the games" initially referred to how the game operates like the other commenter said e.g.

  • How different bodily needs are met. To quench my thirst, do I boil the dirty water and just take some RadAway? How much radiation does this InstaMash have? If a character in the show drinks from an irradiated lake and somehow isn't affected by the next plot device, how "true to the game" is that? If I do that in any of the Fallout games, I'd be running into Deathclaws with only a fraction of my max HP.

  • VATS. Will time be stopped or slowed down while the characters are selecting and terminating their targets? There's a lot that can go well here especially since it's an opportunity to inject slow-mo Hollywood-style shooting scenes, but can you imagine if they don't put any slow-mo at all? In my opinion that would show a huge lack of understanding of the games.

  • To your point, decisions. Unfortunately I think making decisions for the audience is unavoidable here unless the show becomes something like Netflix's interactive specials. However, some good ideas might include reproducing quests similar to the ones from the games and then making decisions based on data they may have gathered from game quests. Take the Megaton Bomb quest for example. Maybe the show will force a character into deciding between blowing up a city or not at the twilight of a story arc. In the end, they decide to blow it up. Then, during the credit roll, they show that most people in the games who did the Megaton quest actually blew up the city. I don't actually know what the real stats are, but I think it would be a good idea for the show's characters -- to a certain reasonable extent, because if we blew everything up like in my last playthrough it wouldn't be a very good show -- to follow the patterns of most decisions made by the playerbase in the games. I'd see that as an attempt to reconcile the disconnect between playing a game(lots of control) vs. watching a show(no control).

[–] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 6 points 2 years ago
[–] makyo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Just throwing this out there because we don't know for sure - but my hope is that Amazon paid their graphic designer/illustrator the regular rate for something like this and they saved themselves 90% of the time it would have taken by using Stable Diffusion and then took the rest of the day off.