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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

He chose to go with a slightly autistic positronic brain which can't (or won't) do contractions, over the previous model, which was too suave to the point of becoming sociopathic.

Should've gone with smaller corrections, perhaps, but Data works quite well.

Even when he's malfunctioning.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Alternatively: hmm, okay Lore was evil... What if I model the next one after a Vulcan personality, but don't tell anyone so he develops an identity crisis lol

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I was a little surprised that Worf didn't want to sing. It sounds a lot like a Klingon drinking song

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except when he does, but we will just pretend we did not hear that.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ok, after S01, it only happened again 5 times out of 152 episodes (of a total 176)— not including Future Imperfect when it was holo-Data. That’s a pretty great record for slip-ups if you figure the rule simply wasn’t established until S02 episode Datalore.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that every time though?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don’t understand the question

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is that a comprehensive montage or has he used contractions in other episodes? I'm betting on the latter.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know I often claim to have encyclopedic knowledge of all things trek, but I don’t know that much. I’m just going based off what’s in this video. I started counting based off examples after S01, of which there were 5 that didn’t include ones from Future Imperfect, in which I knew Data got called out for using contractions.

Perhaps there are a few others, but, still, I doubt that it’s more than a few more, which makes for a pretty good track record considering how many episodes of that show there are and how many lines Data got.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm guessing what is more likely is that they spent a long time going through season 1 looking for them and then either skipped around or found posts somewhere online where people had noticed others.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just think that the “no contractions” rule wasn’t set until S02 to help both define Data’s character and differentiate him from Lore, which is why they suddenly became a super-rare mistake rather than being a commonplace occurrence, but whatever. I’m too tired and stoned now to look it up.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ok, so that’s 42 episodes where Spiner slips up post S01. That’s a 72.3% success rate at getting through episodes without a contraction mistake. Still not bad. Not great, though.

But it still supports my theory that, after S01, ot was a rule that they really tried not to break, but did accidentally anyway. Or, maybe, writing around it would have been way too clunky.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

He has exceeded his programming, without knowing it.

[–] BumpingFuglies@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It is a bit of a contradiction that he can't use contractions. It's a contraction contradiction. A contracdiction!

[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If he can’t use contractions, what would happen if he tried to use a portmanteau?

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Geordi would look at him confused for a sec, then Data would explain that he was using a portmanteau, he'd combined two unrelated words to create a third with a new meaning, that- and Geordi would cut him off because he knows what a portmanteau is, he'd just never heard Data do that and it was unexpected. This aside would lead to a revelation about the A plot of the episode. By technical space jargon, mashing two things together to create a new third they can technical space jargon and separate Riker from the alien he was boning that week.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get on the LD or upcoming Academy writing staff stat!

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Ummm... Sure. Give em a call for me would ya?

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you think the Borg queen tempted Data with the pleasures of the flesh, but they actually had to cut the scenes where she was tempting him with the freedom to say "ain't".. it was too powerful.. too moving..

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Now I really want to hear Data say:

Ain't nobody got time for that!

[–] invertedspear@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Wasn’t there an episode that establishes Lore was first, but hit an uncanny valley that people didn’t like? The response was to make Data more robotic including no contractions.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Says a lot about the other androids, doesn't it?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile llama2 sounding like an actual human