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Of course, the news is going to run with this as if it's true, despite this "laced marijuana" apparently reaching no one but this guy and/or only causing him specifically with violent psychosis.

I guess the drug warriors have found their new way to demonize cannabis.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Seems like a new spin on the classic Reefer Madness.

Why put in the work to come up with something new when they can just dust off old propaganda, spice it up a little, and repackage it at 1/10 the cost of a brand new smear campaign?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No need to repackage it. They've already colorized the original for the kids!

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)
  1. I did not know that. That's hilarious
  2. She looks like she's having a great time jamming out on that piano*

* That's what she's doing right? Been forever since I watched it ironically to make fun of it.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Basically, yeah. She's being egged on by a guy smoking a joint to keep playing faster... because apparently when you get high you like fast piano music?

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

because apparently when you get high you like fast piano music?

Sometimes!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm more of a Pink Floyd guy...

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 6 points 7 months ago

I'm all over the place. I've given up trying to make a playlist ahead of time. Kinda just have to bounce around on shuffle until something hits me right and then go from there.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago

And sometimes you create jazz!

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

You monster

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

wtf?! Even if it was, normal folk don’t go on murderous sprees.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

It's your typical drug war propaganda. Taking an undeniably crazy man's word for it too.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How do you lace a bud of a plant with something in a way that isn't immediately noticeable, anyway?

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 21 points 7 months ago (3 children)

And who is lacing drugs with more free drugs?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

It's almost as stupid as the whole "bad people put drugs into Halloween candy to hook children" myth. Because schoolchildren famously have money and can definitely figure out which house gave them the Baby Meth bar.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 9 points 7 months ago

You're telling me your dealer doesn't lace your $20 bag of weed with $100 worth of hard drugs?

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Never heard of moon rocks?

[–] PainInTheAES@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

That distillate and kief certainly aren't free. •́⁠ ⁠ ⁠‿⁠ ⁠,⁠•̀

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ever see a moon rock? If someone gave me that when I wanted weed, and didn't know it was just more weed I'd be upset.

Imagine not even knowing what the drug you want looks like.

"One marijuana please."

Gets handed a bag of brown powder, a syringe and a spoon

"Whoa this is more complicated than I thought."

Actually I have a story about this. When I was a teenager and had just started getting into pot I was hanging out with friends and someone wanted to get a bag of cocaine to mix into a blunt and spent like 4 hours trying to find a connection before finding someone. The dude who wanted it went to make the deal and comes back with meth. So after calling him an idiot and trying to figure out what to do, they call a dude they know uses meth and offer a trade. Guy comes over, takes the meth and gives us some coke. About an hour later, he comes back all pissed off because it wasn't even meth. It was just a bag of plastic beads, which he only discovered after smoking some. 🤣

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here's the answer to your question as provided by the government and media: DRUGS ARE BAD!!!!

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Here's the answer to your question as provided by Mr. Mackey: Drugs are bad. Mmmmmmmkay?

[–] Johnmannesca@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Rockford has dispensaries, so laced weed is highly unlikely

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah, no.

Stake him to the top of a fire ant hill and pour honey on him.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Neither of your options has to be true. Blaming it on weed as temporary insanity rather than the guy just being psycho is a third option.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I just don't know that there are any other cases of 'laced' cannabis making people murderously psychotic and I've never heard of cannabis triggering such an episode either, which is why I doubt both explanations, but I'd be happy to see evidence to the contrary.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Paranoia and delusions leading to a type of psychosis are not the same as violent psychosis though. That's what I was talking about. I don't know that 'the weed made me do it' defense is one that has been tried to many times, if ever.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a mental health professional. I'm just talking about people being arrested for violent behavior or even mass murder like in this case and placing the blame on going psychotic from cannabis.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago

I'm not the one placing the blame, except in jest. But I'm probably not the best one to discuss the real issues with, because the terms you're using have very specific meanings -- and you very clearly mean something specific by your use of them -- but I don't understand because they don't actually mean in clinical use what you think they mean. So we're on different pages to start, and that doesn't usually end well.

But I'll explain my own position on it, if that helps.

Reefer Madness was like, what, 1934? For myself I'm not going to reach back into that fantasist's argument, or any other like it, to try to prove, disprove, or illustrate anything regarding marijuana or its consumption, which all started because of a fucking stamp tax on hemp farmers to satisfy the cotton farmers anyway.

It is a fact that cannabis is credibly associated with the causation, provocation, and/or worsening of mental disorders, which you have now seen for yourself, and honestly I thought everyone already knew (my bad). But it is ALSO a fact that these are quite rare, and cannabis is absolutely safe in many (most? almost all?) use cases. If it were not, we'd damn well know it by now: when I was young, weed was far weaker and smoother than today, and used by fewer individuals. Today, you could probably knock out my entire graduating high school class with the shit you're rolling in a day or a week, yet the cases of cannabis-induced psychosis remain quite rare. To me, that says a great deal about how safe the base product really is, even in its currently enhanced form. And you've got edibles! We just had brownies, lol.

As far as it goes I've had my share, and stopped in 1996. I haven't had a toke since, mainly because it never did much for me and I'm not around people who do it much. (If I were at a party and someone passed it, I would neither Clinton nor Bogart, lol.) But just because I don't use doesn't mean I disapprove: far from it! I think it should ALL be legalized (or at least decriminalized) so that the disorders that do arise from recreational and/or medicinal psychoactive drugs can be better studied and prevented, and not just cannabis. The psychedelics and entheogens have dramatically changed people's lives for the better (I'm one of them) but we can't fucking study HPPD, or even MDMA in PTSD, without reams of paper spent in uselessly strict government approval processes.

This asshole in Illinois says he got tainted weed. He also just fucking stabbed/killed multiple people, which -- speaking solely for myself -- does not rocket his personal credibility into believable levels, lol. So for the record, don't think I am taking his assertions as ANY kind of proof or even evidence. Rather, I agree with your opening statement above, where you assert that unfortunately the anti-pot brigade will simply use this to fuel the anti-pot crusade.

For me, though, this is total joke fodder, coming from the generation where television regularly had people jumping off balconies because their sunshine was a bit too orange, lol. Think a lot of shaky/blurry cam shots and Robbie Benson afternoon school specials. I'm sorry, but that shit is absolutely hilarious to me, and I don't think that will ever change.

I think we're good here . . . yes?