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Damn, this is a sad day for the homelab.

The article says Intel is working with partners to "continue NUC innovation and growth", so we will see what that manifests as.

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[–] Savas@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sad really, but the issue, as someone as mentioned already is they were too expensive.

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[–] Pacers31Colts18@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

Real shame. Best purchase I've made for running Proxmox with Plex, Radarr, Sonarr, Home Assistant

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm fine with it. Their competitors passed them by a few years ago anyway. The only thing the Intel branded stuff was better at now- was being more expensive.

[–] suth@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree, love my NUC but it seems the last few years they haven't been the best option. It seems like they lost touch with what people wanted from them around the time they started releasing models that supported a full size GPU.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

started releasing models that supported a full size GPU.

Exactly what nobody on earth wants from a mini pc.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Funny timing on this since the mini pc market is picking up steam from what I can tell. Then again, these are overpriced compared to the competition.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That depends. I don't think Intel actually wants to be in the market for whole (or barebones) systems. they probably would much rather just sell the processors and leave the rest to others. The NUCs were just a tool to kickstart the market, which seems to have worked quite nicely. The only issue being that now both AMD and Apple are strong competion.

So under that assumption this withdrawal makes a lot of sense, especially now that they need to focus all of their resources to catch up in their main business segment.


Didn't Valve make similar comments for the steam deck? That they see it as a tool to create a new market and hope that others follow.

Even if someone else were to make a much better handheld. As long as it runs Proton/Steam Valve would still win.

[–] Madnessx9@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I got an i7-6700 skull canyon? for free through work many years ago, absolutely love it, it now serves as a Linux box and hosts server stuff on it. Only issue is a ram port died and seemed a common problem!?

Still enjoying using it and it's form factor is fantastic, not sure if I would replace my own desktop with it but would have been an easy consideration for the kids first PC although it may benefit them actually building a tower and learning.

Shame to hear they are stopping

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[–] Bobert@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Between Minisforum and Beelink putting out NUC-likes with AMD, Intel just can't compete. I'm biased in favor of team red to begin with, but you just cannot tell me an Intel NUC provides better per dollar value than the above's offerings. I've used NUCs, I like NUCs, but why pay more for less when there exist alternatives?

[–] billygoat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly, for a home lab I would pick an Amd over Intel just to have the extra cores on top of costing less.

[–] radiated@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The reason for wanting intel is the iGPU to get quicksync.

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For me it's the hardware transcoding capabilities of the Nuc is what makes it stand out.

Quick sync is so good and well supported that Intel is a no brainier for me.

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[–] jalim@jalim.xyz 11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The article makes it sound they cost over $1,000 (USD?) and were impossible to find but here in Australia I never had any issues finding and unless you were going for the extreme versions, there closer to $5-600AUD which made them a great fit. All we can hope is that there’s a few other brands who are willing to fill the space with equal quality products.

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[–] bertd2@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I own a bunch of them, generations five through ten, and have always had a love/hate relationship with them. None has ever died on me. My main workstation at home, as well as two "homelab" servers are NUCs. They Just Work under both Ubuntu and Proxmox.

The love is for them just working. The hate is for Intel :-)

What they got wrong:

  • cooling. CPU cooling is finely tuned and controllable through the BIOS, no qualms there. The disk and the NVME SSD have no cooling whatsoever. Sticking an small 40mm fan to the side and running it at the minimum RPM drops the case temperature from 60°C to 40°C and avoids the NVME SSD burning out. Needless to say, a glued on fan looks fugly.
  • opening. By refusing to let their firmware be accessible to the fwupdmgr mechanism, Intel forces its Linux users to physically go to the machine, stick in a USB thumbdrive, keyboard and a monitor, and click their way through the BIOS update. In contrast, my Dell gear gets updated online through fwupdmgr, and I just have to suffer a reboot with a few minutes of downtime. I don't even have to be at the keyboard.
  • remote monitoring. I bought two NUC's with vPRO support, to allow for remote management. But the remote console sucks eggs even from a Windows management station, so I wound up disabling it on all of them. Both Dell's iDRAC and HP's ILO run circles around vPRO based remote management.

That's not a lot to go wrong for such a big endeavour, which is why I will keep hating Intel and sorely missing the upgrade opportunity. Just hoping Dell will step into the void.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (19 children)

What do you recommend for desktops that aren't the big ass tower?

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[–] Starayo@saldemi.casa 3 points 1 year ago

I got one for my mother when she needed a new PC and it died within a month. Not intel's fault though, chip on the SSD died, first time I've seen an m.2 SSD die like that. Replacement going strong.

[–] LachlanUnchained@lemmyunchained.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn. I may need to buy a couple

[–] TuneAFish@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That sucks, I hope this isn't a statement about the "Mini-Pc" market in general. I've been thinking about getting one as a "Steam machine/ emulation station" for a long time but the stars never really lined up.

I've got a full sized PC in the front room getting long in the tooth and looking ridiculous that could easily be replaced. But while the 970 still plays Dave the Diver, well there's other shit money can be spent on.

Wasn't meant as a reply, pressed the wrong thing, my bad

I still appreciate the love ✌️💛

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[–] hschen@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Oh man i was thinking of getting one of these to replace my raspberry pi

[–] Savas@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe ironically with the prices dropping on these people will actually buy them..

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Lenovo or HP mini PC would be a much better bang for your buck.

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[–] roofuskit@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think this has more to do with the refurbished small form factor business PCs eating up their market share as they flooded the market. I can get a decent i5 unit for $100and throw a $100 into it in upgrades and hit the same performance as their $300-400+ price range.

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[–] aeharding@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

That’s a bummer. Maybe framework will fill the void lol

[–] NukeminHerttua@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Damn, we are using them at my work and they have been very good as remotely updateable media kiosks. I just started to learn how to use them. Ofcourse well keep using them for some time still, but at some point we'll need to find another solution.

I was also thinking getting one to work as a streaming computer. Currently I use one computer setup, which causes performance issues with some games. Would a nuc work as a computer to encode the video live or would it make more sense to use a machine with s proper GPU? Any thoughts?

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[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Minisforum is taking the torch from them. I just bought one from them which is essentially a NUC, it has a Core i7 and RTX 3070 mobile in it. It's pretty much a laptop without a screen. They make tons of smaller ones if you forgo the integrated high-end GPU.

[–] qwertyWarlord@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Sad, I have one right now and it's great. Sleek small form factor with the power of a regular PC for not really that much more money is a great idea. I haven't been the kind of guy to want to build a big rainbow LED PC in a long time, I've been appreciating I can get a great machine the size of a large hard drive

[–] nivenkos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope Valve release a home console with SteamOS like this.

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[–] nivenkos@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They weren't distributed directly by Valve though, there wasn't a standard hardware configuration, and SteamOS 3 and Proton didn't exist then.

I think with the strength of the Steam Deck now it'd really help to solidify the Valve ecosystem. Why buy a PlayStation and re-buy your games when you can just use Steam?

EDIT: That reminds me I really want a Steam Controller 2.0 too!

[–] Clothing8727@lemmy.tuxprint.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The frustrating thing about the steam link is how locked down it is. I'm not mad that they discontinued it or that they made the software available for raspberry pi. That last part is actually really cool.

The thing is, you can't do shit with it other than steam link. I want to hack this thing man! I want to install other shit on it and add it to the lab lol.

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[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What's the opinion about System76's mini PCs? I've just ran across them and thinking of getting one.

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[–] SJ_Zero@lemmy.fbxl.net 6 points 1 year ago

I've bought a few dozen of these things, shame to see them go.

[–] Yaks@lemmy.fmhy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

I have been using a Beelink mini PC in my home entertainment setup for about a year. It has been very reliable and solid. No issues with 4k content.

[–] Hello_there@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My wife just asked me about a backup solution for pictures. Is a small pc like this onnected to network with some drives in raid the best option? Should I use to also replace our Amazon fire stick?

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[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I kind of get it. MinisForum and companies like it have sort of carried the torch of what the NUC started. I loved the NUCs, but this was kind of inevitable.

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[–] bertd2@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I own a bunch of them, generations five through ten, and have always had a love/hate relationship with them. None has ever died on me. My main workstation at home, as well as two "homelab" servers are NUCs. They Just Work under both Ubuntu and Proxmox.

The love is for them just working. The hate is for Intel :-)

What they got wrong:

  • cooling. CPU cooling is finely tuned and controllable through the BIOS, no qualms there. The disk and the NVME SSD have no cooling whatsoever. Sticking an small 40mm fan to the side and running it at the minimum RPM drops the case temperature from 60°C to 40°C and avoids the NVME SSD burning out. Needless to say, a glued on fan looks fugly.
  • opening. By refusing to let their firmware be accessible to the fwupdmgr mechanism, Intel forces its Linux users to physically go to the machine, stick in a USB thumbdrive, keyboard and a monitor, and click their way through the BIOS update. In contrast, my Dell gear gets updated online through fwupdmgr, and I just have to suffer a reboot with a few minutes of downtime. I don't even have to be at the keyboard.
  • remote monitoring. I bought two NUC's with vPRO support, to allow for remote management. But the remote console sucks eggs even from a Windows management station, so I wound up disabling it on all of them. Both Dell's iDRAC and HP's ILO run circles around vPRO based remote management.

That's not a lot to go wrong for such a big endeavour, which is why I will keep hating Intel and sorely missing the upgrade opportunity. Just hoping Dell will step into the void.

[–] Saltarello@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Great machines, I use an NUC8i7 as our HTPC. Supports 4K 60fps. Got it hooked up to a Denon amp for Dolby Atmos. At some point i hope I'll find time to look into Home Assistant, I'd use another NUC for running that.

[–] StarChip@kbin.cafe 5 points 1 year ago

Sad to see these go. I use one for my Nextcloud home server and am happy with it.

[–] Savas@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sad really, but the issue, as someone as mentioned already is they were too expensive.

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[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Looks like they're trying to get 3rd parties to make them. Oh well, pour one out for the quirky little machine.

[–] Ascend910@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago
[–] Molecular0079@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Jesus Christ. Why does it feel like tech industry is just getting shittier and more expensive, while all the cool consumer options are being axed. Intel Nucs were a relatively cheap way to get a cute little desktop machine or a home server. I am sad that they're going away. I guess there's always Minisforum, but still...

[–] roofuskit@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (21 children)

Because infinite growth of profits on a finite planet.

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[–] Kushia@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Every time I've had a use for these either a business PC (or ex-business referb for home) has always been a better, cheaper answer.

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[–] SpeedLimit55@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

This is unfortunate, these NUC are inexpensive and reliable for the conference room.

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