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This is kinda stupid, and just for "culture" but I sometimes see women wearing overall or jumpsuit are fashion accessories, but when male do so it's professional clothe (and sometimes sport clothe).

It's seems that if a man over 10 year old wear an overall of a jumpsuit it's a professional attire rather than a fashion thing. I am not really sure on why it totally skip the "male fashion step" ? I get that the "plumber overall" isn't really that of a dream, but a pilot jumpsuit seems like many men's dream job.

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 90 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are you just trying to make actual sense out of fashion? Good luck.

[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

It would be easier to understand, if it was making an sens :)

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 61 points 7 months ago (3 children)

You missed the phase in the 90's when overalls were cool. Chris Cross gonna make you jump. And wear overalls. I think House of Pain wore them too.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It was indeed Afro-American fashion in the 90s. The Fresh Prince of Bel-air is another famous example.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In the latter half of the 90s it was popular with young people in general

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Overalls are still pretty big in the fat, shirtless redneck crowd.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

And the 80s

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Whoop whoop

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fashion is, when you buy things that are so ugly that only half a year later you need all things new.

[–] Behaviorbabe@kbin.social 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Depending on where you live, it’s absolutely male fashion. My dad wore overalls over a plain flannel almost exclusively.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de -2 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I.e. "previously was in fashion"

[–] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago

Or they died.

[–] Behaviorbabe@kbin.social 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah well he died so I guess he doesn’t wear them any more, lol.

[–] Cyberspark@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 months ago

It's work safety attire. When men wear it it's "why are you wearing those work clothes" women can wear them because no one will assume they're work clothes because women don't (normally/traditionally) do those jobs.

In the same way that men don't wear suits in a casual setting they don't wear other work attire in a casual setting.

[–] WeeSheep@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Generally if women wear something, men will avoid it to not appear affeminate. Increasingly so throughout history as fashion is incorporated into gender roles.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The exception being jeans!

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 8 points 7 months ago

Jeans are somehow on a completely different plain of existence. They've been somewhat fashionable for decades and all in all, haven't changed that much. They got tighter and wider, higher and lower, but still more or less the same.

[–] WeeSheep@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Not sure if you noticed women's pants are significantly tighter and more form fitting than men's. They also tend to be thinner and stretchier to accommodate, and therefore usually wear out faster and are not as good in cold weather.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

For a guy, it wasn't a new fashion. The women are going through pocket overcompensation. Next, they'll be in JNCO jeans.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

Shit I need to cash in on this and make cargo skirts.

[–] probablynaked@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

upvoted for pocket overcompensation i am seen

[–] antidote101@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I'm going to say that somewhere between guys not wanting to wear their work clothes outside of work, and the outfits being a major symbol of workers during the time the IWW were being demonized (the IWW being the "International Workers of The World" an global socialist workers rights union) - baby clothes became a thing.

Overalls and jumpsuits and softer forms of them are easy to put on babies (due to being one garment)... Cartoons even sometimes depicted them as having a poop-flap at the back for toilet training.

So men were being told not to wear them, babies were wearing them, and they were being used as a political symbol of international communism and "lowly" blue collar work like mining or steel work.

... however women, would later (within our youth obsessed culture) want to look cute and young, and at other points in time, wanted to be seen as viable and capable workers... And women were already in the habit of borrowing fashions from men.

Thus there were cultural rejection factors for men, and cultural attraction factors for women.

A woman can put a tshirt on, some overalls and a scarf around her hair and indicate she is painting her apartment - the look thus had a social broadcasting function "I'm doing labour". If a man does this, he may well look like a garbage man, or a child in a romper suit. Male labour is now represented by more modern safety equipment, like ear and eye protection, or boots and gloves (perhaps due to harsher forms of work).

So the symbol for women of repaint and repair also transferred to television, and from there, the "look" carried popularity for social signalling, as well as started to become somewhat of a queer aesthetic for self-activated and hence partially "masculinized" women, such as lesbians, activists, hikers or environmentalists, and "independent" women, who are "doing it for themselves".

[–] antidote101@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Oh, also, some women would have had access to overalls as part of fulfilling factory work roles during WW2 when male labour was absent.

Due to having to mostly return to their "normal" lives afterwards, this may have given the social period when less men were around to be wary of or tell them what to do, a magical quality of independence.

Some of that magic of female independence may have washed off onto the factory workers uniform: The Overalls.

[–] bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Are comfy versions of overalls and jumpsuits even made for men? I just assume manufacturers make men's work wear and women's fashion versions and skip out on their counterparts.

[–] EveningPancakes@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Yes, check out swoveralls

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's hot when women wear clothes that are seen as "men's clothing"

[–] nonailsleft@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

When we started to let them wear pants...😉😉😉

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 7 months ago

Women look better in them.

[–] philpo@feddit.de 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Follow up question: How are overalls/jumpsuit even remotely practical,especially for women who don't pee standing up mostly - and especially in the US with its legendary public toilet doors?

As a man I simply don't get it.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

I'm guessing it's because parents also dress their kids in denim overalls (because kids are messy), leading to some kids growing up to experience wearing them. Girls like the "vintage" style of kid's clothes at least as far as high school, at which point they can become a nostalgic choice.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Not a lot of people wear their uniform as high fashion unless it's one that carries an inherent prestige