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[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 20 points 7 months ago (3 children)
[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You'll notice the referenced door blowout incident on the "newly new" aircraft differs from this new incident where I couldn't find mention of the age. A failure like this could be due to poor maintenence on a decades old aircraft and no fault of Boeing. It's the new media trend to pile onto Boeing now for every issue. Now Boeing deserves much of the hate they are currently getting. But it can muddy the waters and give them ammo to cry about unfair treatment if we blame them for issues they didn't cause.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

FTA:

"The plane is an older model of the Boeing 737 than the Max jets."

The Max 9 was introduced in 2016, so older than that.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Did they stop making older models when they introduced the Max? IIRC they just stopped making 747s a short while ago.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

They may have, Southwest is known for running an older fleet.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I guess so. I flew a few weeks back and was so happy that the handout in the seat back pocket said it was an Airbus lol

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

People will say it's not the same as the other Boeing incidents.

They're right, it's not.

Unfortunately this is a new normal.

The Federal Aviation Authority has succumbed to regulatory capture. The FAA is no longer capable of protecting American's from poor design and build quality by American manufacturers, or from poor maintenance by American airlines

The best way to stay safe is to do 2 things:

  1. Choose to fly on Aircraft designed and built in Europe recently, or perhaps America before 2007.

The FAA had massive budget cuts after the financial the crisis and even though they were meant to be temporary putting the budget back has been a political football ever since. American Aircraft designed and built since those budget cuts are the problem.

  1. Choose an airline that has routes in Europe and not just domestically. That means maintenance is likely to have to comply with a better funded regulatory body in addition to the FAA.

Do one and 2 and you'll almost certainly be safe. Aircraft design and build will be as safe as we'd come to expect, so will the maintenance.

I'd prioritise 1 if you can't do both. Even though it seems bad, a well designed aircraft losing a piece like this mid flight isn't going to bring it down. Even if it's not good enough to catch things like this I'd expect maintenance by domestic American Airlines to still avoid a crash, even without FAA oversight being effective. If a piece falls off, redundancy or simply the fact it's not critical to flight means the pilot will be able to simply divert and land. Delays, not deaths.

The problem Boeing has brought in is we're now flying modern aircraft without redundancy in key systems and structures. The FAA has allowed it. It's the thing that's most likely to cause fatal accidents.

[–] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that’s not very typical, I’d like to make that point.

[–] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well how is it un-typical?

[–] thesporkeffect@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

The engine cover's not supposed to fly off, for starters

[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago

Boeing is not safe

[–] Ohi@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Uh oh!! Somebody else is about to get wacked!