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I know 100℅ of the world top 500 supercomputers use linux, and around 65℅ of world servers. I want more info like this to help me campaign towards GNU/Linux use. Thanks.

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[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I believe Germany is working on that. Recently they have started to migrate 30K systems or so from windows to Linux.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, Germany likes to spend money going back and forth between FOSS and Microsoft.

In 2003, Munich announced it would be moving some 14,000 PCs off Windows and to Linux. In 2013, the LiMux project finished, but high associated costs and user dissatisfaction resulted in Munich announcing in 2017 that it would spend the next three years reverting back to Windows.

Germany be like: let's move to Linux in the hardest and most likely way to fail. You know, gotta find creative ways to fill your consulting "friends" pockets. :)

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 25 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Afaik the stated reasons for moving back were pure BS, or at least blown out of proportion. It mainly came down to the people in charge being very "friendly" with M$. Munich got a new major, he publicly called software-freedom "idiological nonsense", asked a consulting firm that partners with and sells M$ products to analyse the situation, and everyone was shocked when they recommended M$.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Afaik the stated reasons for moving back were pure BS, or at least blown out of proportion. It mainly came down to the people in charge being very “friendly” with M$

I know! Profits.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago

As much as im a foss person I could see if failing on "merits" in the sense it started in 2003. SuSE might have been worked out but they took 10 years and if at that point they were still using something decided in 2003 it was bound to be messed up. Seriously we are talking when open office was nascent and star office was a thing.

[–] eveninghere@beehaw.org 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

That's one region in Germany. The rest is not. Actually, a few in Germany tried moving to Linux in the past and gave up, unfortunately.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

More will follow with their EU data privacy laws violated by use of office365

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[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Brazil is trialing Linux right now too.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 9 points 7 months ago

LiMux, Munich already had perfectly fine systems running Linux but M$ corruption made them switch back

[–] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Schleswig-Holstein in Germany seems to be switching to Linux and LibreOffice.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] intrepid@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft uses a lot of Linux. Especially on Azure.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago

Yep but 200% sure not Desktop Linux

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

North Korea uses 100% Linux

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

No wonder my country won't let me travel there.

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Finally some good news out of North Korea

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

Sort of correct. Red Star OS has been in wide use for nearly 20 years now, but it is definitely not FOSS like actual Linux distributions.

[–] jaagruk@mander.xyz 16 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Lot of health systems,government office,universities(mostly), defence (mostly) use Linux in my nation (🇮🇳)

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[–] Markydraws@lemmy.kde.social 14 points 7 months ago

In brazil, in the city I live, computers in public schools have been using linux for as long as I remember until 2015 when I finished high school. They used a mix of ubuntu machines and a distro called Linux Educacional which was made in some brazilian university I can't remember. They used KDE Plasma, one of the reasons I still prefer it to this day.

[–] biribiri11@lemmy.ml 12 points 7 months ago

The US’s Department of Defense is one of Red Hat’s biggest customers. Other than that, the US government theoretically uses Linux quite extensively, going as far as making significant contributions such as SELinux. It was mentioned already, but academia uses Linux a lot, too. I saw lots of machines at SLAC running CentOS 7.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

We're moving to Linux but still mostly use Windows.

Also, more people use uOS.

Edit: At least the public sector is greatly incentivizing it.

Edit: Somebody below said that 90% of the government used Linux, apparently? I wonder how much of that is servers and what's the relevant percentage for the US. I've only found that the US had 25% in 2001.

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[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 7 months ago
[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

Russian military stated in the news they use AstraOS, some another fork. All other government institutions are too used to MS Word\Excel and the population in these places are usually aged conformists, so it won't change soon. Some schools experimented with Linux but for their budget it makes more sense to keep using outdated Windows PCs. With the whole culture built around formatting and reprinting, signing papers in closed formats that don't render the same even in different versions of Office, the whole generation should die off for some change. One exclusion - cloud editing in cooperation in Google is popular, but that's about it.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A huge amount of security camera NVRs run Linux, so that's something.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 7 months ago

Linux from 10 years ago and you can't change it.

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

To all the commenters here writing that Brazil is testing Linux. There was a recent post on Reddit which got linked on Lemmy. That (unknown ?) poster on Reddit wrote about a test on 800 computers for some part of Brazil, if all goes well, it's for 22k computers. https://lemmy.ml/post/14397254 Now try to guess or imagine how many inhabitants the whole of Brazil has that use computers :)

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 3 points 7 months ago

140 million? Am I close?

[–] governorkeagan@lemdro.id 2 points 7 months ago

Original Reddit post (using an alternative front end) if anyone is interested.

[–] christos@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Shrexios@mastodon.social 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] christos@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have never tried it. But debian based + xfce, so you know what to expect.

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[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I believe in Greece, the military is using Mint.

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It goes well with Lamb Kofta

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Greeks don't eat lamb kofta. They eat gyros (which is shaved pork meat, not lamb ground, which is middle-eastern).

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 months ago

If im right brazil is trying out linux. A lot of people already use linux there because its free.

[–] HexBroke@hexbear.net 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry to burst your hexbear bubble, China mostly use out-dated Windows, even though they want to switch to linux, it is not even close to being done.

Even wechat is unsupported on linux, which makes linux unusable for most people in China. Plus most people need mirrors to use most FOSS software in China, with most of the privacy centric ones are completely blocked.

This is an example of such mirror: https://mirrors.tuna.tsinghua.edu.cn/ , a more complete list can be found here: https://github.com/vra/mirrors-china. Most popular distros are included in these mirrors.

Basically there is few ways to get FOSS software and update directly from the developers in China, which tends to be the most secure way.

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is true of the consumer market, but the OP asked about governments, and 90% of government computers in China run Kylin or NeoKylin, with plans to consolidate the two into a single os. This follows the overall trend of China's tech sector seeking to replace imports (and copied versions of foreign tech) with fully domestic alternatives.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The link they give leads to a 404 page, which is disappointing. I have a few friend and family member works in the public sector and government of China, as far as I know, none of them have heard about linux.

So probably not 90% yet.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think India? I don't have a source for this. It's something I think I remember reading on a forum.

[–] imAadesh@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

Nah, All of India's govt system mostly run pirated Windows. The southern state of Kerala has switched to Linux though. Every 2-3 years or so, the central government announces switching to Linux and then forgets about it.

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