BubbleMonkey

I tend to agree with that sentiment. Hence the confusion over everything being __punk.

I’m probably equally old so yeah that’s sort of how I envision it as well.

That helps, actually, more than one might expect.

When I think of __punk, I think about it having a whole -way of life- change, not just an aesthetic change. Cyberpunk incorporates all of the dystopia of deeply embedded tech and stuff. Solarpunk is the whole “living with nature” ideal, even steampunk had to reimagine how things would work (tho admittedly that’s way more of an aesthetic than the other two imho).

So it’s basically a meaningless term then? That’s disappointing. I really want to explore other… hypothetical options I suppose.

I mean I get that it’s used that way, but that doesn’t address what I want to know - are these “more than aesthetic”, or is it watering down what punk means by being applied too broadly?

I tend to think it’s the latter, because while the three I called out specifically are an aesthetic, they are also “alternative present/future” in a rebellious and/or politicized sort of way. They are sort of “what if?” Or “this would be good/bad/interesting”.

I don’t think the others really have that quality, but I’m not deeply involved with anything that would really help sort it out. So here I am :)

Surprisingly unhelpful, thanks! :)

That’s why I don’t swap for fedora. That’s the kind of help you tend to get unless you know someone who knows the distro, so I guess thanks for exemplifying :)

I’m gunna read that but I’ve been drinking and ima be honest here my reaction is

Isn’t it always.

But frfr I am saving that for my read list because I am super into science, pick a science I adore it. Thanks for sharing :)

I haven’t tried those, but I did hop a bit on a bad hard drive. mint was too much (also o just hate it, tbh). Antixlinux was too much and that’s meant to run off a flash drive so the drive was failing, and now it isn’t (new 15 year old drive!!!!!!) and Ubuntu is still a bit too much. But it runs a web browser which is all I need for a bedroom media device. I’d like more, but it’s enough.

But since then I’m seeking a different end goal. I was looking to optimize that old pos, but now if it just runs a browser and runs Plex web, I’m happy because it’s so old I can’t expect it to download for me.. it can do, but not well and I have other machines for that. I tried to use it as a download device but lol, nope, can’t handle that many p2p connections on 4g ram.

But I’ll try those on flash drives and see what they can do for me! Thanks for the recommend!

Technically I’m not even getting what I’m entitled to, I just recognize I get more than most of my comrades and until they get it I’m not pushing for myself.

Because you are right. It’s horrifying to go to a Va hospital, because the majority of people there are bitching up a storm because they aren’t getting care they should be entitled to. Wildly uncomfortable experience. And I don’t blame them and they deserve it way more than I do.. but technicalities..

I’m probably going to get downvoted for this but I’m a Linux noob overall…. Windows has historically been what I’ve used. Or Ubuntu. I did distrohop to antixLinux and other really super small distros, but they didn’t fix my problems and I ended up back on relatively bloaty Ubuntu for further testing and sadly it solved bout a third of my problems (the hardware is ancient enterprise shit with a whopping 4gb ram and 16 usb ports)

I’ve been looking for a Debian based system to replace Ubuntu because I’m a noob and Debian-based is super different from the fedora.

I’m sure fedora is great! Tons of people love it! But for a noob is can be really daunting. Especially when most Linux instructions come in three flavors “Ubuntu/debian” and 2 other things. Who knows which two. You, the advanced Linux user, probably know which two but your noob doesn’t. And doesn’t understand the difference.

I’m not a total noob but I prefer Debian because I know a person who gets Debian and can help me. If I knew a fedora user that was actually willing to help me, I’d use that, but I’ve never met one so I’ll stick with what I know.

I haven’t lived abroad but I’m a disabled vet and thus get social healthcare..

And it’s fucking horrifying what my countrymen/women don’t get. I get the European experience (less than, let’s be real.. I was gunna say more or less but it’s less…) and my comrades in arms (and just my comrades?) don’t because of technicalities? My brethren who choose not to support business get screwed? Fuck that we should all benefit.

To be clear, health should be a human right, housing should be a human right, food should be under health as a human right but let’s be serious it should be a separate human right so everyone has to acknowledge it. (thanks America for needing that to be spelled out…)

If you, on the inside and thus impacted by more gravity, which speeds up time (proven through ISS tests and general relativity) looked out, through gravity-based lensing, assuming you could even see more than a still image on the event horizon, and assuming it wasn’t warped beyond recognition, would time not be stopped for you? While you still saw yourself moving?

Sure, time would be stopped looking in, but since you are past the event horizon, why would stuff outside it continue to move for you? Your time moves differently.

I think a black hole would just be a mess for anyone anywhere near it, and I know we have no real solid understanding of how it works (because we definitely have no actual idea - we have never been remotely close to one ever, it’s all speculation) so..

I was under the impression you’d never actually realize you were falling in because of the time dilation.

You would see everything around you slow down, while you seem to be going the normal speed, because gravity. As long as your body remained parallel to the hole itself so you didn’t get pulled to shreds.

I get that this shows the gravitational lensing and stuff but.. I’m having a hard time squaring that with time dilation. Would you actually see gravitational lensing from inside the lens?